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Edited by Sigma: 10/23/2014 4:19:30 PM
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My fellow Titans:

Let me set the scene for you; You're just wondering around, capturing some points in control, when you decide that popping your Ward of Dawn is a good idea. Good? Great. Now you have a viable way to defend the objective for a short period of time until it goes away. ..and by 'goes away' I mean that some cocky Hunter or a snotty Warlock has come along, used their respective Super Charge and now, 3 seconds after you popped it up to relax under with a spot of Titan Tea, you are sat naked, alone, and wondering where your dead teammates are. Can any of my brothers relate? Can anyone offer a suitable explination as to why [i]our[/i] super is the weakest? When it is currently the only subclass that really promotes strategy. Rise with me, fellow Titans! Take back the Dawn! Fight for a buff! [spoiler]..or don't, I'm not your mother.[/spoiler] Edit: This thread was made with a fun little theme to it to try and avoid all the usually negativity on these forums, so thanks for everyone for keeping it civil. Edit 2: I have the saint-14 helm, and usually do very well within my precious bubble. It just makes me a sad little Titan when the super gets taken down by another super. Edit 3: Im not saying that it shouldn't be taken down when a super is used against it. What I am saying is that it shouldn't kill everything inside. The warlock and hunter supers currently just fly through it as if it wasn't there.

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  • I actually think the Defender Titan super is amazing, but not when used as a "this is my safety dome lulz". Oddly enough, my Defender Titan is used best when it's used offensively. Force Barrier activates on kills, and I tend to pop the barrier in a corner where I don't have to worry about getting fired at from long distance, but I can dip in and out of to continue to refresh my Weapons of Light buff.

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  • Edited by Rawdoginher: 10/23/2014 4:10:50 PM
    Or when I get 1-2 shotted by a shotgun inside my bubble with full health and a full shield...something doesn't seem right with that picture. I took a break from Defender last night and I must say that Striker is a monster. I don't think I will go back to Defender for a while in crucible because a Defender's super just seems like a waste. Most of the time my teammates do not use my bubble and like I said above...I constantly get 1-2 shotted by shotguns, 1 shot fusion rifle, 1 shot golden gun, etc.

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  • Unlike other supers, the Titan can adapt theirs to different situations. The Warlocks and Hunters can;t change the function of their moves. It will always be a kill/aggressive kind of super. Titans have a shield that regens while inside the shield and also for their allies, a shield to all allies that run through it, or a massive damage buff to weapons to all allies who pass it. It's a support move and it's weak, but it is a move used to help people adapt to situations on the fly. I mean, I hate Hunters with a passion, and I will rejoice the day they become the unviable scum they deserve to be, BUT that is no reason to say the Titan is bad. The name of the game for Titans is "Adapt" because it is a class that requires you to know where you are and who is around you, all the time. I would enjoy a buff, but it's unneeded.

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    • Lesson learned: Don't use defender, it's 100% useless. Even if the control points were important (they're not), you're literally just luring all your teammates in to get obliterated by an enemy super.

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    • Im a Striker, so I can not relate and I choose not to relate because it is not my play style. But I am not talking down on them. It is awesome to have someone save my life in PvE and PvP. So I wouldn't be able to understand the pain.

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    • I don't mind a super canceling a super, that makes sense to me. But I don't like that my bubble is cancelled and everyone inside dies. WoD and nova bomb should neutralize each other. An old bubble may have less "health" so that would need to be considered but a long range nova bomb should also lose some oomph.

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    • If the bubble couldn't get popped, I would be satisfied. It should just time out. Other players can still react to it by simply: not going near it.

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    • Bump to my fellow Titan

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    • I like the bubble for defensive purposes. The only change I would make is have it explode when it expires damaging enemies in the blast radius. This isn't going to change usage much and would make it better for both pvp and pve.

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    • Edited by Falco: 10/23/2014 4:59:06 PM
      It's the weakest in PvP because Defender Titans have some of the best grenades and the bubble is meant more for PvE. If the bubble couldn't be destroyed by nova bomb and hunters have to go into it to break it then it would be considered OP since you take a point for ~1 minute with little counterplay.

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      • Edited by DxFox: 10/23/2014 3:34:16 PM
        Here's a couple of problems I've noticed with the subclass in general: 1. There is no penalty for an enemy going inside the bubble. Period. In PvP it's not as bad because everyone runs AoL, but it really irks me when on a nightfall strike a vandal can just waltz up to my "impenetrable shield of void energy" and pimp-slap me. There should be some sort of DoT similar to the poison that Hive Wizards can inflict, although minus the slow effect as that would be ridiculous. 2. Force Barrier activates on kill, and yet a Sunsinger gets an overshiled on hit. I thought that this class was supposed to be tanky considering that I look like a walking behemoth, and yet a scantily clad sunbro gets what I get but better. 3. Force Barrier and WoD don't get a timer. I can't count the amount of times I've been standing in my bubble, only for my WoD to unceremoniuosly vanish and leave me eating a mouthful of shrapnel. 4. For an entirely defensive and immobile super thats main purpose is to defend, it reallly fails at this point. GG overpenetrates shield in 2 shots and the 3rd kills the defender. Warlock Nova Bomb either breaks the shield and kills the user or the AoE does. Sunbros Radiance gives comparable damage resist to AoL, but his melee burns on hit so the fight is a 50/50. Strikers destroying the shield by FoH inside of it is understandable, but Aftermath going through the shield and killing me blows my mind. Bladedancers 2HKO a defender with AoL, so it really depends on who strikes first. 5. The greandes... Magnetic either has sniper accuracy or it literally bends around the target, spike greandes need god-like placement to be used as area denial and supressor grenades are a great utility, but their range and damage are extremely underwhelming. Really hoping for some buffs, because the Defender is in dire need of them. Also aplogies for the wall of text. Edit: Catapult also needs to be reworked for both Titan subclasses, as it seems to be both worse than lift and not offer the momentum it advertises on the perk. And on a less serious note I would like a patch that plays disco music when I deploy the WoD. We all strut our stuff inside it so they might as well add it in.

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        • Put armor of light on Makes you nearly indestuctable in there

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        • I have a titan and warlock and can completely relate. I know the point u have but u have a striker that can take shields down. Ward of dawn will beat sun singer more than likely. So it's kind of a balance system I feel

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        • Nothing more comical than watching someone try to run through my bubble, then freak out when they become blind..or when I pop my bubble and pull out my Invective and wait for someone dumb enough to try and rush me, then blast them in the face..works good for me!

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        • with the helm of saint 14 i use it as a trap in doorways or control points..

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        • There's nothing funnier than fist of Havoking a bunch of people standing in a bubble

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        • LMFAO at "spot of Titan Tea" hehehehehehe

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        • Your super blocks other supers.. You have the potential to keep your entire team alive from a nova bomb.. I'm sorry how is this bad?

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          • But think. While the puny warlocks and hunters waste their precious supers on your ward, you have successfully switched subclasses to striker while under your ward's protection. and having upgraded striker, you charge them before they know what is happening, and right as you lower your shoulder, about to crush their tiny jaws... you get shotgunned in the face. Oh well. Worth a shot. #feeder #TitanForLife

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            • stop complaining the bubble can be just as unfair as all the other supers

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            • Amen, my Brother, AMEN!

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            • To be honest I would be happy with Ward simply nullifying damage from the other supers completely then going out. I prefer to stay in the bubble and serve as a distraction to the enemy and giving team members a chance to pick them off whilst distracted or simply a safe reprieve. Since certain other supers will not only bust your bubble they also kill you and anyone inside it makes Ward dangerous to take cover in because of the attention it attracts and the possibility that your attempt to help ends up luring your team into a false sense of security while you may just be giving an enemy the opportunity to pull off a nice multikill

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              • "My Fellow Titans"

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              • Message me and I will give you an instant win strategy for control.

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              • I usually just put the bubble between me and wherever they're coming from. Not exactly on the objective, but close enough I can snag my buffs. Force them to come through and be blinded when you have the helm of saint-14 and it's easy kills all day.

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              • I dunno, it's always kind of hilarious to watch them use their Super to pop my bubble and kill me... And then watch my three teammates roll in and murder them right after. Makes me laugh every time.

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