-_-. Why are you so upset though? People weren't supposed to be up there. If we didn't know that then, we know that now. Giving the playersban advantage is one thing, bit giving them a way to circumvent two keep mechanics is another. The cleansing ability of the relic was meant to be used in case the players missed destroying the oracles before they marked the raid, not to shrug off the oracles all together. Not only that but the adds pose little to no threat from that position. It also it makes the ability to keep the Templar from teleporting pointless, though not necessary. It would be a struggle to even use it. Using the platforms breaks the fight, for all intensive purposes, shrugging two challenges to the side. Had there have been a mechanics designed specifically to do that then that would be different. I understand you may not see that, but that's how I would define it. It also is how Bungie seems to see it and other developers, and players that I've observed. Also, why criticise Bungie on how they fixed something other than just to be critical? It just seems facetious. It would be one thing if the fight was impossible or took an insane amount of time to complete. But it can be completed with an understandable amount of effort and doesn't take very long at all. I said using the platforms was childish and that was why. Teams are more than capable of facing the challenges and succeeding. In real life it would be a legitimate low risk strategy, but in a video game the purpose is to take the risk, to challenge yourself, otherwise what's the point?

First, intents and purposes*; sorry that just bugs me... Second, "not supposed to be up there", that's the devs telling you how to play the game, despite them trying to say there's no one single way. That's the upsetting part. If there is terrain, players are going to be drawn to using it. That's strategy. If the game is going to throw snipers up there, then players are going to want to snipe up there too. Players are going to find rocks jutting out from a wall just ever so slightly and stand on it, even if the developers didn't intend for players to stand up there. Players are going to find artificial cover (like the small pile of rocks in the last part of The Black Garden, just after the cutscene. Players are going to look for something the enemy didn't account for to gain an advantage, no matter how small. That's human ingenuity beating a machine, and it makes players feel good to feel smarter than a computer. It's not really attempting to cheese it, after all, they still have to put effort into it; that's players using their brains instead of their brawn to beat an enemy... and it gets punished in this game. It's "cheap" to think your way through a fight. If this WERE real, it would make no sense to randomly kill players just for standing up there unless there was some actual element, say a layer of burning lava or such, that allowed the hobgoblins to stand up there and not players... or the Templar marking you for deletion for interfering with Hobgoblins popping out of time to attack. There would be no invisible walls preventing you from using your boosters to land on a platform or stick to a small ledge. They're nerfing players ability to think through problems, instead of making creative solutions to gently [i]encourage[/i] players to do what they want, things that make sense and make players not want to do something, instead of punishing them FOR doing it. The fact it can be done in real life is the whole reason to make it a viable strategy or to encourage not doing it, not putting something unexplained that simply says "you're not playing the right way". The relic cleanse is how people are able to abuse the platforms as a cheese method. This is why the alternatives works; if the relic is taken away while up there, players can't abuse the platforms, and instead use them just as a sniper platform for one members; if the relic prevents double-jumping, players will have to stick to the relic if they REALLY want to abuse it. Both of them create a logical reason to not be able to abuse the platforms, while still providing them as walkable land. Both of them provide a means of making the boss feel smarter by giving it some power to fight back. In any group, you will have frontliners and backliners. The people with autos and shotguns are the frontliners... But Destiny does all it can to make sure backliners, the people with scout rifles and snipers, just don't exist. Yes, we all have guns to shoot at from range, but the frontliners are body-blocking, melee-pounding, knife-in-the-face distractions. The sniper DESERVES to be protected, because she still has to get the shot off or else she's useless. She's not hiding, she's just making her job easier... But for whatever reason, Bungie doesn't approve of this playstyle, approve of a playstyle where you use your sniper from a safe distance. Next they're going to prevent players from sitting atop the ledge before entering the boss fight. A sniper can sit up there too... how long til they prevent that move? Still useless unless you get your shots off, and just as vulnerable as on the hobgoblin platforms... Will they put in a cutscene that teleports everyone into the arena with no way back up? Maybe they SHOULD do that, just to add another scene to the game.