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10/15/2014 4:33:57 PM
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I truly feel that the answer to this patch is Increase the attack power on the mythoclast from 300 to 400... That would satisfy those complaints about the nerf while still nerfing the PvP aspect... And the pocket INFINITY needs to have that joke of a speed reload perk replaced with ammo regen.... INFINITE ONCE AGAIN... and not OP Problems solved for ALL... You are welcome
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  • I honestly don't know why they nerfed the PI because it was never a problem for me in PvP [Mythoclast did bother me, but only when there was two of them on the enemy team, but the PvE part should be treated separately]. But, I don't think raising the damage another hundred would change anything because the max level is 30 for anything. Have you seen a level 32 enemy? No? Then 300 Max is perfect because if you divide 300 by 10 you get 30 which means that a damage of 300 will use max base attack damage on level 30 enemies and lower. Get what I'm saying, or do you need more clarifying?

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  • No i need more clarifying... I thought the attack power affected the damage that the enemies took from that weapon (outside of crucible) Not the level that the damage gets buffed... Where do you get your info from? I know that you lose damage when attacking an enemy that is a higher level than you, not an enemy that is a higher level than 1/10th of the attack power of your weapon... That is why it is essential to be lvl 27 at min for raids or lvl28 strikes... And at 28 it becomes even easier... If your "logic" is correct than upgrading your weapon attack from 280 -300 would have no affect on any enemies EXCEPT hard raid, which is the only place to find enemies over lvl 28 Once again, please, where do you get our info from?

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  • Edited by EVIL CROWKILLER: 10/16/2014 9:21:13 PM
    My information comes from the databases and by testing the weapons myself, I have free time to make sure my information is correct and the information of others to be true. A weapon of higher attack will do more base damage to an enemy however levels do play a big role in how much damage is applied (Ex: every level you are under an enemy, you do roughly 25% per level and a max 50% if you are above them 2+ levels) But a weapon also does more base damage if it's attack/10 is greater than the targets level (Ex: a 300 max damage weapon will do more damage against a level 26 enemy than a 260 weapon will do because of the 50% over level bonus I mentioned even if both the players are level 26. So, no, having higher damage weapons will generally be better than same level weapons) I will admit, having the same guns with different attack damages can be tough, but it is do able with others. There was another man online who had posted a sheet of information about the values with weapons he recorded, but it is lost somewhere in the database for now. However, I do know that two weapons that have the same stats but have an attack value of 230 and the other 288; the 230 will do less damage against anything above 23 levels, but a 288 will do additional damage to anything its level and below. If you do believe I am wrong, please feel free to recreate the tests with two identical weapons with the same stats, but different attack values. Then collect the data of both body and critical shots at an average against Vex/Fallen/Hive from a range of low level to high and make sure the first weapon is not upgraded or modified while the other is fully upgraded without modifiers towards stats and damage (Ex: glass half empty and lucky bullet will void out results since they change the damage modifiers and increasing the impact slightly will void out the results as well)

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  • Its not that i do not believe you, it's just that I have never heard this before, once the psn gets back up i will test this, I have 2 atheons epilogue's one maxed at 300 attack and the other fresh with 248 attack, i know that it has glass half full, however i will make sure i base my test on the first few bullets of the clip to avoid the bottom half bonus damage, that way it will not be affected... So to get this straight, I will test against enemies Lvl 22 Lvl 24 Lvl 26 Lvl 28 Lvl 30 if i can I am lvl 28 Let me know if i am missing anything... I will repost the results

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  • Those guns will work, just try not to shoot those with purple shields since they take double damage from void weapons. But, yes, this will work; I'm actually excited to see if others get similar results to ours! If not, well we either test it more until it is a proven fact or a myth. Good luck to you!

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  • Btw what platform do you play on?

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  • Edited by EVIL CROWKILLER: 10/16/2014 11:53:16 PM
    Xbox 360

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  • They need to put it back to normal for PvE but Pvp they need to leave it nerfed. That or don't allow any sort of exotic weapons in pvp.

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  • Woot +1

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