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Edited by BLUENINJA: 10/13/2014 6:47:08 PM
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Raid gear SHOULD NOT be the only way to level 30!

Something that everyone I talk to agrees on yet no one seems to point out online, is the downright terrible decision to make raid gear the only path to level thirty. Perhaps you've already heard this before and no longer care, but I challenge you to. this is a flaw that needs to be fixed, for several reason. 1. It nullifies ALL FIVE FACTIONS. Are you really telling me that every single one of those legendary armories the five factions have were [i]stepping stones[/i]? You bust your bottom to get all that gear, only to be left once again at the mercy of the RNG? 2. we BUSTED OUT BOTTOMS to get that gear! I didn't spend literal days in the crucible getting all those marks for you to tell me that I have to give them up if I want to be level thirty! That is unacceptable! In fact it's downright disheartening. We didn't work that hard to have it surmounted by a couple hour long raid. 3. Save a shader and one gear piece, everyone would look the same. looking the same as everyone else should NEVER be the goal in an RPG, that's ridiculous. So we get one exotic armor, and a shader to look unique. otherwise we have literally the same armor as everyone else. Honestly how did that slip through the cracks during development?? 4. What about future raids? assuming you get different raid gear in future DLC raids, that means you have practically nullified one or more perks on your fancy VOG raid gear. Now, if the level cap goes up, fine, that makes sense. But if it does not, you now have armor with useless perks. I'm not saying raid gear should be on par with faction armor, not at all. It SHOULD be better. just in different ways, perhaps granting lesser bonuses to all three attributes, instead of a specialized two like most legendary armors, or make the raid armor require one less defense upgrade to reach max stats, making it easier to upgrade than faction armor. There are ways to make raid armor special. But giving it exclusive access to level 30 was a terrible decision. I've built an entire play style around my armor, one that won't work with raid armor. In fact, seeing as there's basically only one armor, MOST peoples play styles don't fit. How is that ok? leave a comment stating you're own thoughts. Hopefully they will understand the problem with this decision, and fix it soon. EDIT: Thank you for your feedback. It seems that some like the raid system, but others are frustrated by the "exclusive" nature of the raid armor. So, allow me to reign in my thoughts to this: customization. Perhaps the biggest downside of the raid armor is the fact that there's only one set. So "your" guardian, as bungie advertised, is really just the same guardian as evey one else minus one equipment slot and a shader. Bungie advertised that the character was YOUR guardian, that you were unique, but if you want to be the best, bungie wont allow you to be unique. This is my biggest complaint. perhaps this won't change until the DLC comes out, and if so, oh well, I still believe they need to fix this.

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  • The raid gear serves only two purposes at this point. 1. As a badge of honor that you've completed the VoG raid (multiple times) 2. To allow you to successfully complete the raid on Hard mode. No other activity in the game requires you to be level 30. Imo, Bungie never intended for you to just have ONE set of gear----which is why they tied the levelling system to your armor. I believe they expected us to compile an arsenal of various weapons and armor, then PICK which gear best served whatever mission we are to be going on. Expect to see other raid gears for future raids...and the raid difficulties going up. Also you wont' need to have completed the VoG in order to do the future raids, since the leaked level of the raids for the next expansion are 28. Which you can get to with Legendary gear +/- an exotic.

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  • [quote]3. Save a shader and one gear piece, everyone would look the same. looking the same as everyone else should NEVER be the goal in an RPG, that's ridiculous. So we get one exotic armor, and a shader to look unique. otherwise we have literally the same armor as everyone else. Honestly how did that slip through the cracks during development [/quote] This is my issue with it also

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  • Yes I know right u should be able to wear more then one exotic because some people don't have time to do the raid its really time consuming

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    • Edited by xRegalGhostx: 10/17/2014 10:17:28 PM

      Started a new topic: what leveling should have been

    • Agreed also I quit playing Destiny until they make match making for the daily, weekly, night fall, and raid. There is no board even to let people know you would like to do one of those besides this stupid forum. And my posts just get buried. They want you to organize with a bunch of 9 year olds and do their job for them in order to continue playing the game. So over it.

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        Yes it should

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      • Edited by BrokenLance: 10/13/2014 7:26:13 PM
        they made some seriously weird (and bad) design decisions, glad people are bringing them up. "What about future raids?" indeed.

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      • Edited by kryple: 10/13/2014 7:17:55 PM
        I agree there should be other ways... maybe level 30 strikes? A level 30 strike list could be challenging and give greater chance for better gear along with VOG? Ive beat the raid several times and all I have to show for it is some weapons and a shader... nothing to level up. Factions do become completely pointless at level 29... or allow more than 1 raid a week??

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      • No, just no. As with all raid set games, raid gear is the highest tier. Because the game uses gear as a system for level management, you need to raid to hit 30. Your quarrel is not with the gear used to raid, it is with the level system.

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        • Try spending six hours on the raid and not get one piece of armor or legendary/exotic weapon. Yep shards and a shader.

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          • Why do you want to reach 30? The only reason it's necessary is for raiding on hard mode...

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            • 1 way is bound to be easier than the other and then everyone would be at level 30

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            • its fine the way it is. Man the complainers and entitlement claims.

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              • I literally lost brain cells reading this post

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                • Edited by BLUENINJA: 10/13/2014 3:34:04 PM
                  I understand some of the points you are making. Obviously the raid gear is not the final step, sooner or later i will have to get ride of my gear. But in its current state, there [i]is[/i] nothing else to do at level thirty, so while level 30 may be more like a badge of honor, why should raiders (lucky ones at that) be the only ones with that badge? What about the crucible champions? The faction heroes who are rank 10 for some strange reason? Team cooperation should not surmount time spent in game. Level thirty should be a testimony of your loyalty to destiny, not proof that your good at fps's in general. Save that for the emblems. With two months left before expansion, shouldnt the people who have played everyday with no luck for a raid run still be able to say that they are level thirty? Getting back to basics, isnt leveling up about [i]playing[/i] the game in the first place?

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                  • You need the faction armor to complete the raid so it's not pointless and your mad because you can't get 30? Just beat the vault not everyone should be able to get 30 you can still get 29 tho with out raid gear and just because it's not easy to get 30 you run to the forums and complain? And if you can't beat the vault then you honestly don't need to be 30

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                    • I agree There shouldn't be only one armor set that gets you level 30 and there shouldn't be only one way to get it

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                    • I'd like to see more ways of getting level 30 outside of a 6 person raid. Hardly any of my friends have this game and am lucky to be a part of any raids that go on. In sure there's a lot more people than just me who don't have that opportunity to participate as much as others can. There needs to be more ways, even if it's more random or harder to obtain. More customization can't hurt anyways.

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                      • It wouldn't be so bad if, Imo, raid gear was guaranteed every raid run. I've done it 3 times, only got ascendant energy and chatter white. Freakin bullshit

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                        • Only real issue I see is only being able to get loot from the raid twice a week.

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                          • Quit crying or raid, raid hear should be the only way to 30... It's not even that damn hard!

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                          • You wear the raid gear for the raid and you can still switch your other gear on after

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                          • That's how MMO's work. You have to bust your bottoms for one set of gear to get the best set of gear. It would be disheartening if you could buy your way to top level making the raid pointless.

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                            • I completely disagree......the raid especially on hard is the toughest thing to complete in the game and the best gear should only be earned from it otherwise every tom dick and harry would be lvl 30 by now It's not supposed to be easy

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                              • The Raid is easy.. It can be beat easily in one hour. So you never spend more than an hour in the Crucible? The ONLY argument is not having people to raid with. Then join a clan. :) If you need a clan to find fellow raiders join mine if you play on 360. I have over 500 active members. :)

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                              • There should definitely be distinct pvp and pve gear. The level is pointless in pvp.

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