The system would be fine if it wasn't random. Maybe a few different sets of raid gear so we arnt all clones.

I actually assumed that the iron banner would be a way for people to get level 30 without doing pve. But then the iron banner came along and I was wrong, I bet the next thing that comes around will be crucible armor that can take you to 30.

I fully agree with you, I'm actually getitng pretty sad that I can't get a single character to level 30 because I am at the mercy of RNG, and I can't win at the RNG games. I need gloves with my Titan, Helmet for my Warlock, and Body for my hunter... I've done all the raids every week on normal and a few times on hard since it's opened up. I'm feeling robbed as I see some of these newer guys get lucky with RNG and walk out with level 30 on their 2nd or 3rd runs with 3 characters (That are all the same class.)

. One is the fact that your fan base is made up of PVE players, with that said making and keeping this fan base happy should be your number one propriety. I have a list of thing I think can make the game better. One if these things is crafting. Each player would like to be different. Separate but equal, and I feel like most I the cool armor that I have received while playing was worth keeping, except for the fact that I could not add light to it. I feel if you raised the bar on materials needed to craft, and added a light cap this would make the game a whole lot better. Also this should apply to weapons, enable 2 perks of choice, with the ability to change. Elemental damage control, and color customization Another feature I feel should be added is a trading system, most players loads of equipment and material that they would gladly give away. And I feel the option should be ours the gamer to do what we feel with what we are awarded or gain through our game play. I think that the fire teams should be increased for open would run 8 or 12. Most of us have so many people we would love to enjoy the game with but we are limited and at times handicapped by the lack of help on our fire squads numbers. "Nerfing" I feel that the is a clear line between PvP and PvE, and when you guys adjust a weapon solely based on untalented players whimpering due to them not being able to win is terrible when it affects the PvE world. Adjustments are fine but they should be separated as too not effect those who don't at PvP I think there should be some interaction with our spacecraft, understanding that it is only a cool way to sit a a loading screen, it's too cool to not interact with. Just maybe we can have out character inside the space craft, able to craft or go into the vault. Just a thought. Also the as far as sparrows. There should be a race mode, and the vehicle should be fully customizable. The grimoire, please enable a way to access them through the game and have a speaker read them out, most people complain about not understanding the story. And it part because we don't have not want to take the time out to read them. The rewards should also be a little more predictable, competing the game on a higher difficulty should reward greatly! Also Zur should have a special set of weapon I which he asks as well as exotic bounties, this way if players can't afford them, they can at least hunt for them. These weapons should differ from those in which you are rewarded as to keep the uniqueness in the game. Where as receiving a weapon as a reward is special because only those who are awarded can obtain these weapons. This Keeps them rare and worth having. Personally I think we would all like to be able to skip cut scenes after the first time through. That should be a given with any game. For weapons like the scout and pulse riffle's they need a buff. They aren't powerful at all and I understand wanting to make then realistic, but if no buff add better customizing, where the fire rate can be increase and the impact. A big thing is Strikes. Your strike playlist needs to be of mission that are not in the game or story mode. That can not be accessed without playing the strike playlist. This will improve the game by far. I feel that these planets are beautiful. Graphics did a n outstanding job. But there need to be more cities to the planets, allow us to explore. We okay this game to get out of out would and into another, so let it he let this take us away fully by having more laces to go and see on these planets. Russia is cool but what about Asia/china/America/ attest have one city or country in each continent. There is a few more thing that I know would help the game be the best game to ever be played. However I feel I've said enough and I sincerely hope you guys read this with an open mind and take this into consideration. This all come from the heart and out if the love I have for this game. You guys have done a nice job but there is a lot more to be done. "This fight is far from over, it is only the beginning

Agree. The uniqueness is the ONLY thing im not satisfied with in this game. Maybe itll expand, i read the dlc leak rumors and that gear goes to level 32 supposedly but i want my own look. A single exotic and a class item arent enough to feel unique and too many shaders look the same. Brighter colors, patterns, dark drab colors, and selectable body effects (smokey helmets, glowing guantlets) would make it easier to stomach but nothing would do the job like 10 full sets of raid armor for each class.

Come on. We Have all beaten the raid several times and received very little gear for our efforts. I only ever received gauntlets and I already had sun breakers...

I think the PvP community needs to be able to get level thirty gear. One of the reasons the iron banner didn't have noticeable level advantages was because the regular PvP players wouldn't be on par with the raiders.

[quote]Something that everyone I talk to agrees on yet no one seems to point out online, is the downright terrible decision to make raid gear the only path to level thirty. Perhaps you've already heard this before and no longer care, but I challenge you to. this is a flaw that needs to be fixed, for several reason. 1. It nullifies ALL FIVE FACTIONS. Are you really telling me that every single one of those legendary armories the five factions have were [i]stepping stones[/i]? You bust your bottom to get all that gear, only to be left once again at the mercy of the RNG? 2. we BUSTED OUT BOTTOMS to get that gear! I didn't spend literal days in the crucible getting all those marks for you to tell me that I have to give them up if I want to be level thirty! That is unacceptable! In fact it's downright disheartening. We didn't work that hard to have it surmounted by a couple hour long raid. 3. Save a shader and one gear piece, everyone would look the same. looking the same as everyone else should NEVER be the goal in an RPG, that's ridiculous. So we get one exotic armor, and a shader to look unique. otherwise we have literally the same armor as everyone else. Honestly how did that slip through the cracks during development?? 4. What about future raids? assuming you get different raid gear in future DLC raids, that means you have practically nullified one or more perks on your fancy VOG raid gear. Now, if the level cap goes up, fine, that makes sense. But if it does not, you now have armor with useless perks. I'm not saying raid gear should be on par with faction armor, not at all. It SHOULD be better. just in different ways, perhaps granting lesser bonuses to all three attributes, instead of a specialized two like most legendary armors, or make the raid armor require one less defense upgrade to reach max stats, making it easier to upgrade than faction armor. There are ways to make raid armor special. But giving it exclusive access to level 30 was a terrible decision. I've built an entire play style around my armor, one that won't work with raid armor. In fact, seeing as there's basically only one armor, MOST peoples play styles don't fit. How is that ok? leave a comment stating you're own thoughts. Hopefully they will understand the problem with this decision, and fix it soon. EDIT: Thank you for your feedback. It seems that some like the raid system, but others are frustrated by the "exclusive" nature of the raid armor. So, allow me to reign in my thoughts to this: customization. Perhaps the biggest downside of the raid armor is the fact that there's only one set. So "your" guardian, as bungie advertised, is really just the same guardian as evey one else minus one equipment slot and a shader. Bungie advertised that the character was YOUR guardian, that you were unique, but if you want to be the best, bungie wont allow you to be unique. This is my biggest complaint. perhaps this won't change until the DLC comes out, and if so, oh well, I still believe they need to fix this.[/quote] Stop making it easy..learn to raid. Its not hard #lvl30

Completely agree with you on this. One more thing that saddens me is that they design so many variations of helmets or gear but unless its raid/exotic/legendary gear we will simply dismantle it at one point so the freedom of customization is practically not there...

Typical crying pvp bitch get good son

I don't remember if it was mentioned before the game was released that the only way to get to level 30 was to do the raid? Would it be an issue to be able to get to 30 more than one way?

I prefer it this way. Your post would say to everyone that running LBRS to enter UBRS to enter MC and then enter ZG to enter AQ20 to enter AQ40 and then enter BWL to enter Naxx wasn't fun? Perhaps VoG gear will get us into/prepared for the next step which will take us to the next and so on. Thinking is fun.

Yeah just like with trying to understand the story, I have 0 clue why there are factions at all or what their purpose is. Great, I can grind out levels to get basically a different skin armor or gun with the same stats; but with grindy farming and tough materials to get (especially if you mostly play solo) I'm not even gonna bother fully upgrading my gear UNTIL I get my legendary pieces. Which again, being a mostly solo experience player b/c I don't have tons of friends on PS4, and the PUG system sucks (or isn't even offered for dailies and weeklies) I won't really even get. Honestly the last few nights with that reality I've been just playing regular PS4 arcade games in favor of Destiny since I know I'm not really going to gain anything. I wish I could get a refund on the DLC pack I prepaid for on the digital download. Silly me for trusting Bungie wouldn't let me down after Halo.

Customization at the cost of ascendant shards would be amazing. I don't care if it's 15 shards to change ONE perk(or even higher). It would still make getting shards worthwhile...because now when I get them I'm just meh, because I'm 30 already.

Tbh I got one piece durning my 1 run through and what I had on was way better to my play style than what was given. And the stats were better. This whole game is a joke. I'm so super disappointed that I bought the CE. I would of been better off getting the regular copy. It's to bad cause the way they sold it and the way many (myself included) perceived this game, was the next great series in fpsrpg / mp. After much play time and grind I find it to fall short. Although it is a good start it's just not delivering as promised.

Hmmm Google champion gear..... Wounder what that is......