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9/29/2014 4:03:02 PM
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I think that the point of posting, on a forum, is to give feedback, which people are doing. Not sure that I'd go to a consumer protection agency or bring a law suit - seems kind of dramatic, but maybe your're that guy and that's your thing... Again, your mistake is thinking that people aren't informed. As I understand it, they were informed, but on the basis of available information. If that information wasn't complete, then there was a a limit to the extent to which someone could be informed. From what I'm reading, it's not a question of every little snippet from pre-release footage being accurate, but more so the fact that macro items about the game seem to be different from what was initially promised. I never knew that Old Spice was supposed to come with sexy people and a yacht, I guess you tried that and it didn't work - you shouldn't believe all the hype, I guess.
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  • So, feedback to fix the game? Feedback that is not contained in all those 60-70 review scores? Feedback that is not contained in the metrics of people who play 20 hours and then stop? The last part of your post is key "you shouldn't believe all the hype." I didn't, and I'm satisfied with my purchase. A working game, set in a sci-fi universe, with more content and expansions on the way, and I have not exhausted the content I have. I don't know where this entitlement comes from that 20-30 hours of gameplay + multiplayer arenas, strikes and raids, is somehow incomplete. Also, like I said, a pre-release trailer is not a contract, it is a preview. If they really *lied* about the content of the game, that might be actionable. No, I'm not advising you take legal action. I'm saying that none of what you have an issue with is serious, and I wouldn't take you seriously if I were Bungie, I'd say you're another entitled customer of which the industry has become very familiar with. We showed you cool things, and you thought we promised you all the stars in the sky.

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  • Am I supposed to answer all of those questions in the first paragraph of your post, or were you actually trying to make a point? You're referring to me having an issue with something in your last paragraph - what exactly is it that I have an issue with? As far as I know, my post only highlighted that you shouldn't dismiss the concerns that people have on the basis that they somehow know better, when the fact is that some people feel that there may have been a disparity between what was marketed and the final product. For my own part, I haven't formed an opinion on whether the game falls short on anything. Sure, there are things that I would like to see change, but I'm more or less happy with the game so far. If I could make a suggestion; instead of flaming people for giving feedback on a forum created, in part for giving feedback, that you actually challenge them to validate that criticism and perhaps provide your positive experiences as to why the game isn't flawed. So far, all I see is criticism, and people criticizing those who have made the original criticism. Doesn't sound productive to me, how about you? And if you don't care enough to do that, I'd say that you should just move on and quit wasting your time in this topic. And since it obviously wasn't clear, the last part of my post was sarcasm.

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  • Edited by GreyMouser73: 9/29/2014 5:53:24 PM
    There is a fine line between criticism and entitlement. I'm of the opinion that this is just entitled whining and not useful "informed" criticism. Informed criticism wouldn't be complaining about missing game features "and features that were clearly cut from the game and should still be there" since the day the game came out it was KNOWN how many features were delivered - you knew what you were getting, and bought it anyway, or chose to ignore the option to find out which was available to you. This is not "the voice chat should be turned on." Its "you didn't give us the game you promised", but there WAS NO PROMISE. And no, I will feel free to say that whenever and wherever it pops up in the forum I like, and I'd advise YOU to move on, since clearly you don't get the difference. This is not improving the game, its just pot-stirring. It doesn't belong here.

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  • "I'd advise YOU to move on". Solid come back. Call it what you want, for better or worse, it's all feedback.

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  • Edited by GreyMouser73: 9/29/2014 5:58:04 PM
    Yep. They can have fun feeding back their buyer's remorse til the cow's come home "not the game I thought I was buying when I couldn't be bothered to find out what it was" is such great feedback. Give us more for our $60 or we'll what... not buy the DLC we want for free? Give me a break.

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  • Of course they can keep giving their feedback. Glad that we finally agree,

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