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Edited by Eirikur: 10/18/2014 1:59:15 PM
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Proof that Bungie cut content

So, information about cut content have been leaked and users on Neogaf have posted this. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=903125 Apperently a persons game glitched and allowed him to see all the content as locked, including the content we're not "allowed" to see yet. Like the DLC missions, Strikes and Raids. I quote: [quote]The first DLC will include 4-5 missions, 2 strikes(one on earth, one on Mars), 1 raid(on Moon) and 3 crucible maps. Second DLC there is less details but I assume again 4-5 missions, 2 strikes, and 1 raid(which takes place in the reef)[/quote] Where all of this is on disc but have to be unlocked by buying the Season Pass/DLC. So, there you have your proof. Bungie have cut content from the game and locked it for us to make us buy their Season Pass. In my opinion that is a very cheap move. Opinions/Further discussions? Please bump this thread as much as you can to spread the truth. Edit: Further proof that most of the DLC is already on Disc. (From Neogaf) [quote]Originally Posted by HykCraft Sorry if this was already posted... but here you go: Expansion II is only 9.5 MB https://store.xbox.com/en-us/Xbox-One/Dlc/Destiny-Expansion-II-House-of-Wolves/2af987e3-ba25-4d1b-82cb-1fbe02e2ea07[/quote] Link is working again Picture of it if it would go down again: http://i.imgur.com/mOMpeif.png Edit2: KICHZY posted a interesting video: [quote]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PBunIaaPsM[/quote] Edit3: To the people defending this. How are you okay with this kind of stuff? Content being on the disc that you [b]bought[/b] but can't use because they will sell it to you [i]again[/i] in the Expansion Pass. This content should/already is in the game but is locked. Edit4: People saying we're jumping to conclusions, that these areas are not even close to being finished and all that. Thing is. Since the areas are already there(some with enemies) they could have easily have included them in the game. These areas were already in as far back as the alpha. Which means they had plenty of time to actually finish it all. (If they aren't already finished and Bungie are just waiting to release the rest of it to the people with the expansion pass) These missions and areas should/could have been in the final game but were most likely cut to be sold later as DLC. The areas already in the game proves this by showing us areas that are locked where they probably later only will unlock the missions for those areas. As stated in Edit1 "Expansion II is only 9.5 MB" which most likely is just a "key" to unlock the on disc "DLC". Looking at the lack of content Destiny have right now it could have used this content on release instead. Edit5: Seeing that this thread now have about 380 replies(and still going) where the majority are either upset or angry at Bungie for doing this thing, maybe Bungie should address this in an official blog post and update us on how it actually is. Is this DLC content on disc which needs a bought "key" aka expansion pass or will this later be released for free like the Iron banner and Queen's Wrath events? Bungie, take a look at your fanbase/community, more than half of them are disappointed in the way you're doing business with Destiny. Edit6: A reddit post going over everything that changed with Destiny over the last year: http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2hqmkb/how_destinys_content_completely_changed_over_the Same post but on Bungie.net: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/70822032/0/0 It goes through everything that was in the game before release but later on got taken out for DLC or removed completely. Edit7: The Xbox Expansion Pass link is up again: https://store.xbox.com/en-us/Xbox-One/Dlc/Destiny-Expansion-II-House-of-Wolves/2af987e3-ba25-4d1b-82cb-1fbe02e2ea07 9.5MB I have a picture too: http://i.imgur.com/mOMpeif.png Edit8: lavaman2302 posted a link to the ps store showing us the same explansion. [quote]Also check this out https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/#!/en-us/games/addons/destiny-expansion-i-the-dark-below/cid=UP0002-BLUS31181_00-DESTINYEXPNPACK1?emcid=ps-ga-872&utm_medium=Paid_Search_{ps}&utm_campaign=Games&utm_source=Google&utm_term=ps-ga-872&utm_content=Brand[/quote] Pictures of it: http://i.imgur.com/OrfdFdA.png http://i.imgur.com/MmbxruY.png It says 6.9 MB on there. Also a very small download. Most likely a "key". They promise us "New Story and Cooperative Areas to explore" but we all know those areas aren't actually new lol Plenty of people have already been in them. Edit9: Quote from Neogaf worth reading: [quote][quote]I highly doubt the devs just cut complete shit out to sell later.[/quote] And that's probably what they want you to think. You'd be surprised what kind of crap they'd spin. Cutting content out of a game and then randomly blasting it into the market in pieces as DLC is profitable, so they'll do it. It's easy for them. We have no evidence to suggest they aren't doing this. I'm much more inclined to say this is exactly what they're doing based on what we're seeing. Thank god I didn't buy into this game. Pulled out last year when i realised what they were saying and what they were showing just didn't match. The $500m gave me a good laugh though. What a waste. But hats down to Activision, it all worked perfectly. Expect other companies to follow this trend. The future is bright![/quote] Edit10: wazzanut wrote a reply worth reading: [quote]Its like paying to get into Disneyland and then being told you have to pay extra to ride the best rides. People who dont complain about this place less value in money and self respect. I like the idea of releasing content over time to help keep things fresh but theres hardly a main body to this game, it feels like an empty introduction to an empty world. Its like halo leftovers and its starting to smell funny... Repeating missions over and over should be proof enough to the lack of content, its been a while since i felt a little screwed over by a game.[/quote] Edit11: Another area have been found, now by Nowise10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtf3NlYhB_U As you can see it is everything is done in this one as well. All Bungie have to do is release the mission files and that's the DLC for ya. Note that Nowise10 states that this is the 2015 DLC mission. I mean, a 2015 DLC that already exist in the game. That is pure cheapness. Edit12: So, the area Nowise10 found a way into have been in the game for quite some time. This is a screenshot from a trailer released on E3 this year in June. http://i.imgur.com/4zFs3HH.png Would you look at that? http://youtu.be/hRRKtkuOeig?t=1m32s So this area have been in there since atleast E3... Edit13: Another finished looking DLC area on disc have been found: http://teambeyond.net/destiny-dlc-area-uncovered-mars/ http://youtu.be/fY_KKYQG22c Now a strike in the Black Garden area. As you can see it is a big area where you can't go because of this big energy wall, but with a sparrow you can go through it and enter the DLC area. Edit14: Another DLC area found by Corbman. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgoPfuphQvw This is the Traitor's Ketch mission in the 2015 DLC. Is you can see, everything is working as it should, it just needs enemies. Edit15: Once again, a new DLC area found by Corbman. http://youtu.be/BtFey3eEzfk This is the area for the raid on the moon. Confirming that this also is on disc and only needs enemies to be added. I know no one cares anymore so I will probably stop updating this now. Since, I don't really care anymore myself. I've given up on Destiny and will move on to better games.

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  • I think we should not get stucked just in our own thoughts. I love a lot the game, there are no other games that make me stop playing Destiny, not even games from my Ps4 and Xbox 360 (Just like the beta when it was released). But this doesn´t mean the game is perfect. At the beginning when i saw the negative comments giving Destiny between 0 to 4 i was really mad, but after watching some of them i saw some interesting points of views and realities that i didn´t want them to see because i loved Destiny. Destiny obviously lacks of content in every aspect. Now by looking at this images and videos i'm really worried about the future content of Destiny. 4-5 missions won´t add greatness to the story mode, the crucible has the same playlist they just added Iron Banner which is good and raids, well... i think it is going to be the best part. I already paid for the expansions and i will still play Destiny, but i don´t think these expansions will change a lot Destiny... I expect more of the same :( . What do you guys think? P.S: Sorry for my english, it´s not my native language.

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  • Just wanted to bring this up: Folks have pointed out that the 2nd DLC is only 9MB or something, proof that the content is on disk. With Dark Souls the DLC was also very small. But before the DLC came out, the game got a "patch" which was > 1GB IIRC. I believe the point was to keep everyone's version of the game the same so they could still interact with each other in the common world, but I'm not a game designer so I don't know the exact reason.

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  • SWEET CHOCOLATY JESUS!!!!

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  • Customers shouldn't have to pay extra because a developer had a brain fart in mid progress or held back uncompleted or otherwise unfinished content to either finish it or monetize on finish'd content using shady and or deceptive tactics.

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  • What disappoints me the most is there are no new planets!?! You're going to see the same crap in the same areas and do the same things.

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    • #bungiegate

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      • My client actually did the same thing the day before yesterday. When I started to play, everything was suddenly locked and those new stuff were there. After I opened and closed the strike playlist, it went back to normal.

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      • I pray that this stuff isn't true or that's just the surface stuff. I sorta am not into just more map packs. Same thing happens to me with every map pack I every played. Play it say "ah this is nice." Get over the new crap then figure out all the little passages and stuff and get familiarized with it. Figure out which map I absolutely hate. Last but not least, wait for the next map packs OR play a diff game.

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      • Its a proper marketing technique, do you like borderlands? Coz ive got news for ya, they did the same thing! What the devs do is they make a really big amount of content and when the game comes out some of it is cut away and worked on a little as an independent dlc. So stop whining and get back to grinding.

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      • DLC for this game is really D.isc L.ocked C.ontent...

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        • Its a good half a game but that's just it, ITS HALF A GAME.

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        • Edited by Stoney27z: 9/29/2014 4:47:39 AM
          Publishers made Devs do stuff like this year ago , and there was complaint from gamers, But most wouldn't even listen to me that it was locked content their making us pay for, not actual DLC. The size of the download on XBL alone should be enough to give it away without any of this evidence. Both them are less than 10mb downloads lol. So its pretty clear, its locked content thats in our game were gonna be paying for again. Its funny how they didn't at least leave it out of the game, then let us download it, so we thought it was new lol.

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          • Edited by BanjoKazooie: 9/29/2014 6:02:00 AM
            Idiots bought this game for 60$?! っっっ

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          • Or maybe that just free content that's going to come out before/during/after the DLC.

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            • I dont understand how gamers let companies rip them off. :/ ever wondered why the game industry does this? its cuz people let them

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            • http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2hqmkb/how_destinys_content_completely_changed_over_the/

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            • Duh OP

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            • To be fair, DLC downloads for Xbox One are usually only 8MB but you will get a huge patch with all the DLC attached to it. The store file is just the unlock. It's kinda BS because it forces people to fill their hard drives with data they will never use, but it's probably also done to allow them to see the DLC they don't have (like the Compatibility packs for 360 games).

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            • *Theorycrafting* if there is a raid on the Reef, I swear I hope it's the Prison of Elders mentioned at the end of Winters Run, now THAT I would be excited about

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            • Looking at how much SWTOR cost (200 million)...then considering the added alter choices mechanic with an hour plus of storyline video content for EACH character class / plus the video content of each side quest/ and the vast expanse of their open world I expected at least something of like in comparison to storylines and open world size from a game that initially invested twice as much (500 million)... though I did enjoy what little 30 mins of universal video content destiny gave/ and smaller sized open world it allowed me to traverse, it falls utterly SHORT of what i was expecting. The fact that i bought the expansions early on good faith of Bungie's name only disappoints me more to ponder the thought that perhaps I should have waited so I could have joined in the coalition of people who will boycott the expansions if the game was lacking. I guess I leave it to say that Destiny has until the end of their second expansion to meet my expectations, or thus Ill be keeping my extra dollars.

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            • Why is this a surprise, video game companies have been doing this for a decade now...

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              • Good game, Bungie. Good game. Glad I didn't buy into this game and become Fry.

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              • Bump, Activision f***ed bungie so bungie could f***ed us

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              • I have the same glitch. Anyone else??

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              • So basically the guy that glitched and saw the locked content is the Edward Snowden of the gaming industry

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                • I guess this makes sense...I see on the back of the box. HDD Size 20 GB, actual size of content Downloaded...5.6 GB. Get ready guys...I guess we only have about 1/4 of the game open to us.

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