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Edited by Eirikur: 10/18/2014 1:59:15 PM
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Proof that Bungie cut content

So, information about cut content have been leaked and users on Neogaf have posted this. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=903125 Apperently a persons game glitched and allowed him to see all the content as locked, including the content we're not "allowed" to see yet. Like the DLC missions, Strikes and Raids. I quote: [quote]The first DLC will include 4-5 missions, 2 strikes(one on earth, one on Mars), 1 raid(on Moon) and 3 crucible maps. Second DLC there is less details but I assume again 4-5 missions, 2 strikes, and 1 raid(which takes place in the reef)[/quote] Where all of this is on disc but have to be unlocked by buying the Season Pass/DLC. So, there you have your proof. Bungie have cut content from the game and locked it for us to make us buy their Season Pass. In my opinion that is a very cheap move. Opinions/Further discussions? Please bump this thread as much as you can to spread the truth. Edit: Further proof that most of the DLC is already on Disc. (From Neogaf) [quote]Originally Posted by HykCraft Sorry if this was already posted... but here you go: Expansion II is only 9.5 MB https://store.xbox.com/en-us/Xbox-One/Dlc/Destiny-Expansion-II-House-of-Wolves/2af987e3-ba25-4d1b-82cb-1fbe02e2ea07[/quote] Link is working again Picture of it if it would go down again: http://i.imgur.com/mOMpeif.png Edit2: KICHZY posted a interesting video: [quote]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PBunIaaPsM[/quote] Edit3: To the people defending this. How are you okay with this kind of stuff? Content being on the disc that you [b]bought[/b] but can't use because they will sell it to you [i]again[/i] in the Expansion Pass. This content should/already is in the game but is locked. Edit4: People saying we're jumping to conclusions, that these areas are not even close to being finished and all that. Thing is. Since the areas are already there(some with enemies) they could have easily have included them in the game. These areas were already in as far back as the alpha. Which means they had plenty of time to actually finish it all. (If they aren't already finished and Bungie are just waiting to release the rest of it to the people with the expansion pass) These missions and areas should/could have been in the final game but were most likely cut to be sold later as DLC. The areas already in the game proves this by showing us areas that are locked where they probably later only will unlock the missions for those areas. As stated in Edit1 "Expansion II is only 9.5 MB" which most likely is just a "key" to unlock the on disc "DLC". Looking at the lack of content Destiny have right now it could have used this content on release instead. Edit5: Seeing that this thread now have about 380 replies(and still going) where the majority are either upset or angry at Bungie for doing this thing, maybe Bungie should address this in an official blog post and update us on how it actually is. Is this DLC content on disc which needs a bought "key" aka expansion pass or will this later be released for free like the Iron banner and Queen's Wrath events? Bungie, take a look at your fanbase/community, more than half of them are disappointed in the way you're doing business with Destiny. Edit6: A reddit post going over everything that changed with Destiny over the last year: http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2hqmkb/how_destinys_content_completely_changed_over_the Same post but on Bungie.net: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/70822032/0/0 It goes through everything that was in the game before release but later on got taken out for DLC or removed completely. Edit7: The Xbox Expansion Pass link is up again: https://store.xbox.com/en-us/Xbox-One/Dlc/Destiny-Expansion-II-House-of-Wolves/2af987e3-ba25-4d1b-82cb-1fbe02e2ea07 9.5MB I have a picture too: http://i.imgur.com/mOMpeif.png Edit8: lavaman2302 posted a link to the ps store showing us the same explansion. [quote]Also check this out https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/#!/en-us/games/addons/destiny-expansion-i-the-dark-below/cid=UP0002-BLUS31181_00-DESTINYEXPNPACK1?emcid=ps-ga-872&utm_medium=Paid_Search_{ps}&utm_campaign=Games&utm_source=Google&utm_term=ps-ga-872&utm_content=Brand[/quote] Pictures of it: http://i.imgur.com/OrfdFdA.png http://i.imgur.com/MmbxruY.png It says 6.9 MB on there. Also a very small download. Most likely a "key". They promise us "New Story and Cooperative Areas to explore" but we all know those areas aren't actually new lol Plenty of people have already been in them. Edit9: Quote from Neogaf worth reading: [quote][quote]I highly doubt the devs just cut complete shit out to sell later.[/quote] And that's probably what they want you to think. You'd be surprised what kind of crap they'd spin. Cutting content out of a game and then randomly blasting it into the market in pieces as DLC is profitable, so they'll do it. It's easy for them. We have no evidence to suggest they aren't doing this. I'm much more inclined to say this is exactly what they're doing based on what we're seeing. Thank god I didn't buy into this game. Pulled out last year when i realised what they were saying and what they were showing just didn't match. The $500m gave me a good laugh though. What a waste. But hats down to Activision, it all worked perfectly. Expect other companies to follow this trend. The future is bright![/quote] Edit10: wazzanut wrote a reply worth reading: [quote]Its like paying to get into Disneyland and then being told you have to pay extra to ride the best rides. People who dont complain about this place less value in money and self respect. I like the idea of releasing content over time to help keep things fresh but theres hardly a main body to this game, it feels like an empty introduction to an empty world. Its like halo leftovers and its starting to smell funny... Repeating missions over and over should be proof enough to the lack of content, its been a while since i felt a little screwed over by a game.[/quote] Edit11: Another area have been found, now by Nowise10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtf3NlYhB_U As you can see it is everything is done in this one as well. All Bungie have to do is release the mission files and that's the DLC for ya. Note that Nowise10 states that this is the 2015 DLC mission. I mean, a 2015 DLC that already exist in the game. That is pure cheapness. Edit12: So, the area Nowise10 found a way into have been in the game for quite some time. This is a screenshot from a trailer released on E3 this year in June. http://i.imgur.com/4zFs3HH.png Would you look at that? http://youtu.be/hRRKtkuOeig?t=1m32s So this area have been in there since atleast E3... Edit13: Another finished looking DLC area on disc have been found: http://teambeyond.net/destiny-dlc-area-uncovered-mars/ http://youtu.be/fY_KKYQG22c Now a strike in the Black Garden area. As you can see it is a big area where you can't go because of this big energy wall, but with a sparrow you can go through it and enter the DLC area. Edit14: Another DLC area found by Corbman. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgoPfuphQvw This is the Traitor's Ketch mission in the 2015 DLC. Is you can see, everything is working as it should, it just needs enemies. Edit15: Once again, a new DLC area found by Corbman. http://youtu.be/BtFey3eEzfk This is the area for the raid on the moon. Confirming that this also is on disc and only needs enemies to be added. I know no one cares anymore so I will probably stop updating this now. Since, I don't really care anymore myself. I've given up on Destiny and will move on to better games.

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  • Skyrim had all of marrowwind on the disc when it was released. I don't agree with it. But I don't think everything will be released as dlc to buy. I mean they do claim to be a 10 year game.

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    • Bungie got me for $60 this time but they won't see another dime until this is game is fixed. Maybe other gamers are used to throwing their money away on half assed products but I REFUSE to support any company that tries to Scam it's consumers!

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      • I think and hope they are coming out with another expansion with the same amount of content as the other ones but that one is free and comes before December.

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      • You ever thought if past games or companies have done this before?

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        • As much as I love playing this game. I feel they are taking the piss a little. This isn't an expansion its just the same old areas with different missions that will probably be the same. I played a couple mmos and expansions in them games always opened up big new areas to explore. Not different areas on the same map we have already seen. Bungie need to say something about this. I am utterly disappointed.

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        • Edited by WickedWahine808: 9/29/2014 12:21:33 PM
          Only explanation for the lack of... everything in the story, it got chop up to a point of no return. I don't need to read anymore information to confirm this, no one in their right mind would willingly write and deliver a story like this, especially not Bungie. Was it to sell the bits and pieces later? Was it because the story was too dark or did not fit the younger target audience? I have no idea. I'm sure those decisions were made a while ago, but too late to redo voice over and rewriting, so we were left with this awkward introduction to the World of Destiny. As the Stranger would say: [i]"... interesting but not entirely interesting..[/i]." An engaging story at the start would have sold many more DLC content in the future. My opinion.

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        • bump for truth, it's obvious something horrible happened during development.

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          • THE POINT IS DEVELOPMENT TIME BEFORE THE LAUNCH IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOCUSED ON THE -blam!-ING GAME THEY WERE LAUNCHING. NOT PREPARING SHIT THEY COULD SELL TO US AFTERWARDS. FOR $60 BUCKS WE BOUGHT HALF OF WHAT THEY WERE WORKING ON.

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          • This only gets better and better. All this turmoil (DLC that is "already" in the game, content that was cut out, story that was changed in the last minute) is actually more entertainment to read than playing the game itself But honestly Bungie, why the hell there aren't new planets/areas in the expansions? It's the minimum you could do to justify two $20 DLCs.

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          • Are most of you retarded? This is how an MMO works, the development of a game is important if you give the players everything at once it gets boring fast, they're not going to give every raid out on the first day.

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          • :'(

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          • Is this really a surprise though? This is the industry nowadays. Also having Daddy Activision on your back doesn't help either.

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            • Yeah the story is completely messed up. Almost half of the story missions talk about the AI Rasputin which is in the locked Jovian Complex that will be just later released in the expansion pack. The original story that was revealed on Reddit seems so much better than the "story" we have now.

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              • Lol, this post reminds me of little old ladies gossiping around tea and biscuits.

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              • to be honest I don't believe this was bungie's idea. I still believe they made us a great and story filled game but someone like activisIon or another company involved in the game broke it down to where we had to pay to get a story. and for those of you that know of the angry Joe review read between the lines on what hes saying because he thinks the same way about this ITS ACTIVISIONS DOING

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              • I heard after Bungie does all the patches for the game, we're only gonna see a pixel on our screen and thats it....hahaha !!! And it's gonna cost us 100 Ascendant Shards which you don't get in the game anymore....lmfao !!!

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              • Edited by opipop29: 9/29/2014 12:25:25 PM
                Can you show me an actual screenshot stating the DLC is only 9.5 MB?

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                • 10 Years of development... and we got nothing.

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                  • 4-5 story missions and still in glorious old Russia.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh ho.... Oh bungie, you lost a life long fan....

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                    • Edited by MysticJon: 9/29/2014 12:18:46 PM
                      I do not think that Bungie would purposefully cut finished content from Destiny in order to sell it later at an additional cost to us. Now Activision, I absolutely see them having Bungie do this. That's just my opinion. If it is on-disc DLC, it wouldn't be the first time that a developer has done on-disc DLC with their game, so I don't get why some of you think that Bungie would never do that. Other developers have done on-disc DLC, why wouldn't Bungie? And if the videos are fake and there is no on-disc DLC, then we're just left with half a game that Bungie released that way. And if its all fake, what are these areas that appear to be completed that players have glitched into? If its not on-disc DLC, what is it? Just empty areas that serve no purpose? That doesn't really make sense either. Regardless, Its a lose-lose for Bungie. People are running out of things to do in Destiny and I don't think Bungie has a solution for their players.

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                    • this is pathetic i told you how could they have developed 2 DLC before the game even came out oh yea the DLC is cut content of the story to be given to us in for only 30 a piece

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                      • bump

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                      • Making DLC a head of time leave room to further improve them before release.

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                        • Thanks for the info

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                        • And this is where we are after all this time waiting for a destiny. Oh geez

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