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Edited by Aspersio: 9/29/2014 3:37:51 PM
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Remember what Bungie said about trading? lol

Lol seriously. I predicted this from the beginning, before alpha. I said if you randomize drops, you are contradicting the very method you claim to pursue. You don't "earn " that which is randomly given to you. [b]Other people experiencing the same problem. Bungie, look at your hurting community:[/b] http://flic.kr/p/pjt2Jm http://i.imgur.com/qCeiats.jpg http://imgur.com/FkhSXhh http://assets.enjin.com/wall_embed_images/1411666335_1529924_10152283654261673_1876483252179024172_o.jpg http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1414941&s=8 http://i62.tinypic.com/149wjv6.jpg http://i57.tinypic.com/2zyixja.jpg http://i.imgur.com/DgfdvBy.jpg http://i.imgur.com/VIyyKzQ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/bTBb060.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xxOJgiT.jpg http://i.imgur.com/hyHCe9h.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Ixrf2SH.jpg https://twitter.com/GunheadCOD/status/515048852228153344 http://i.imgur.com/BCxrOyy.jpg http://imgur.com/0Ef01Nc http://imgur.com/ZtaIlyR http://imgur.com/ptkGrpK

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  • That's annoying! I've always been last when I've given the crucible a go and didn't get shit.

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  • hahaha... ur tags are hilarious yes, this system is broke as sh!t...i have dozens of pictures of me being first and getting nothing while others get at LEAST blue engrem, sometimes legends, monte carlo etc etc

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  • the defining mechanism of this game is RNG. I think it's the first game I've played wherein RNG with the only path to leveling. I can see "light" being an XP modifier, but to be the ONLY defining factor for 20+ is a fail. There is no skill here, there is only RNG. :(

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  • Edited by Twohothardware: 9/25/2014 5:45:06 PM
    Bungie needs to stop awarding Exotics for doing something as simple as playing normal PvP, especially when you barely even get a kill. I've farmed for days and never seen an Exotic Engram drop. PvP should award only blue engrams with the random purples and you have to play the same Cryptoscrew game at the Tower as the rest doing PvE instead of just getting awarded straight up Exotic weapons. It greatly devalues whatever fun there is in the looting system when one person has to spend hours on end grinding for Engrams just to have a lottery change at finally getting an Exotic and then some random noob plays a Crucible match, gets 1 or 2 kills, and finishes with the same result.

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    • cool

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    • Edited by Precursor Steel: 9/25/2014 5:54:00 PM
      I just wish it wasn't so Random but more skill based. They should've made it to where you get one item based on skillful play like having a high number of captures, kills, Assist, and precision kills. And you get a second item that's completely random but has the possibility to be something awesome. The losing team/poor play should also have the highest percentage to get something good from RNG. That way, good players are rewarded an item based on skill and a random item while unskilled players are rewarded a random item that has a higher percentage of being a good item.

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      • Dude, that has happened to me so many times. Only time I got any good engrams was murder cave. Not in strikes, not in pvp, not in missions, not in patrols. This is pretty frustrating.

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        • lol earn

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        • Colleagues didn't get [b]anything[/b] out of 6 kill orders successfully completed no matter the stats

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        • I'm not a very passionate PvP player - I'm not very competetive and like the co-op element in Destiny more, even though I do admit that the Crucible has been fun aswell, at least when I'm not frustrated by someone who keeps dominating me and my team like a jedi master. So the other day I decided I'll just not get "nervous" about how I do - just get in and have fun, play a few hours. Or at least for the duration that I get a few PvP bounties done that I had picked up. Well, the first few matches I did pretty bad.. around 0.5-0.7 k/d and were near the bottom of my team. I sucked and I knew it. No rewards at all. Saw the third guy get a legendary engram and the second guy get a cool loking shader - the first one getting something aswell - at least a rare engram and a strange coin/mote of light or whatever. The next match; Nothing for me, cool shit for the players on top. Same thing kept repeating. Well - I kept playing and to my surprise, I started to do better.. in the next match I was second on my team and the next few matches I was FIRST on my team, managing to relax, trust my rifle and my Titan abilities I had been pretty good at using on the PvE side. (like shoulder charge and using it to dash around aswell as kill people) But you know what happened? Now the people at the bottom started to get the coolest shit. Like exotics, shaders - all kinds of stuff I would've wanted and I got nothing! "WHY COULDN'T THAT HAVE HAPPENED WHEN I SUCKED!?" :D So yes, that inconsistancy made me think it's not any better form of trying to earn loot as the "Some random engram drops and there's a very small chance it's a good item that the cryptarch decrypts out of it".. They used to hype it so much, how the loot drops will be so exciting as you never know what you're going to get.. But they really aren't. And why doesn't it raise the chances of good engrams dropping if I crank up the difficulty level higher? Why don't the story missions give rewards in the ending screen, according to the difficulty level? That would very highly motivate replayability AND challenging yourself. Alot of the stuff in this game simply doesn't make sense to me, even though I do genuinely admit the solid and functioning gameplay

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        • Edited by Retro_Spective: 9/25/2014 6:03:30 PM
          I think they should take out last place drops, if you're legitimately bad you can still get second last for a drop.

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          • Awful. Ewwww.

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          • but bungie says your gear is supposed to tell a story about your gaurdian but all your rewards are randomized so u dont earn anything so their excuse for no trading is dumb

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            • Oh good now a bad pvp player like me can get exotics just by dying...yippee. Seriously this is way to random. Even i think this is overboard.

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            • Edited by Th0n4TiU: 9/25/2014 5:52:59 PM
              I think, im not too sure but what I have seen is that the loot you get on crucible, strikes, etc... its not all random, it depends on how many kills you have done on all your battles... The guy that was at the last position on crucible and get a legendary item, maybe he just get the necesary kills he need to get that reward... So I dont think a huge team like bungie do everything random... You must research more before complaining about something...

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                • I think the only people that don't think the loot system is broken are the good folks at Bungie. Seems wrong to me.

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                  • Gotta love Bungie's logic. Same for their logic behind no chat. According to Outside Xbox they do intend to implement trading though...

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                  • I would rather see people who are playing crucible and having a bad match get good gear for trying than see the whole mentality of the game change if trading is added and everyone becomes even more obsessed with farming and trading for good items with in game currency/real currency. The idea that Destiny doesn't have in game trading is why it's not just an mmo and it hasn't been made to be one.

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                  • Don't even want to talk about that feeling. :(:::

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                    • Edited by Beastmatt: 9/25/2014 5:48:30 PM
                      Your argument still doesn't conclude that trading should be implemented. Trading would be even worse than random loot drops. If you get a legendary/exotic for another class, you dismantle it for shards(Or you can save it for an alt). The point of engrams would totally be flushed down the toilet, if all you had to do was trade your exotic hunter chest piece to get the exotic warlock chest piece, that you were hoping it would be in the first place...

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                    • I have a theory about the RNG.. I went 32-12 one control game we lost but I got the exotic Suros Regime auto rifle the next game I went 33-13 and got a legendary primary engram and a strange coin.. Maybe if u get 30+ kills u get something good.. Just Maybe :/

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                      • Well first off this is a crucible match. The gear it gives is completely random because it's not the best gear in the game. The reason there is no trading is because if you do a vault run and a peace of raid gear drops then you wouldn't want someone who didn't complete the run to have it. I'm extremely proud that I competed the vault because I know that not everyone has/can. So you do earn your rewards, stop searching for it in the crucible though.

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                        • I do that all the time, have a great game, go 22-3 and get nothing. Seeing that player get an Exotic weapon and a Strage Coin for zerro kills would bug the crap out of me tho. I'm just super lustful for Exotic weapons. I'd stab the speaker in the neck for a Suros Regime.

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                          • We had a saying in World of Warcraft: The worse you are the more RNG loves you. Honestly the worst players in our raid would routinely win BiS loot (best-in-slot) from coins whereas our best players would fail to coin anything, and on top of that the item they need wouldn't drop. Which was awesome when it was a very important Main Tank item, makes doing Heroic content that much more fun (and by fun I mean harder). TDLR: RNG is RNG, it's not just Destiny.

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                          • But there's no other drops in crucible, hence the for fun pvp (supposedly "guardian training" lore wise) rewards loot "randomly"

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