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7/3/2014 11:41:03 PM
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Are Unions still good for anything anymore?
Started a new job a month or so ago, got in the mail today my letter from what would be called Local 7. It's relating to my employment and the Union I will now be a part of, and how deductions are going to be started weekly and monthly it seems from my paychecks to pay "membership" for something that I don't believe is all that necessary anymore.
The reason why I don't think it's necessary is simply for the fact that this isn't the 1900s anymore. We don't have that many factories and large industrial areas with thousands of workers all working on machinery and such. We have machines to do that work and we supervise the production ourselves. Unions were there to protect the workers, make sure working conditions and rights were treated fairly, and to insure that we were not wrongfully terminated and otherwise.
But now, in my honest opinion I don't see a point to being in a mandatory Union that can take money out of my wages for something I will likely not need, it's seen as a less useful form of insurance to me. Perhaps I'm largely ignorant on this as a whole, which is why I'm asking this question. Are Unions still worth it in most working areas? Or do they only really help a small percentage these days and just sap money from us like taxes do since our debt, in the US, is not being reciprocated properly.
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When the workers aren't apathetic vaginas they work great.
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1 ReplyUnions aren't that great. Sometimes they ask for way too much and not to mention they are know for corruption i.e. the mafia pretty much controlled every union in the US at one point
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If you don't like unions why did you get a job that has one?
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They can protect you from being fired unfairly.
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Give my avatar back.
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Unions are good at supporting(giving your money) politician to push their own agenda. Plus they are getting rich fighting for your .005 cent raise.
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Onions have layers [spoiler]#shrekt[/spoiler]
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1 ReplyEdited by qy: 7/4/2014 7:00:51 AMRead the title as "Are onions still good for anything anymore?"
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Yeah, they're still good.
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Edited by M37h3w3: 7/4/2014 6:49:27 AM[quote]Unions were there to protect the workers, make sure working conditions and rights were treated fairly, and to insure that we were not wrongfully terminated and otherwise.[/quote] And that need for protection from exploitative or manipulative businesses hasn't gone away. Sure it's gone down drastically in the skilled labor fields but arguably it's needed drastically in the unskilled labor fields. And just because businesses don't exploit or manipulate their workers right now doesn't mean it's time to do away with unions. You don't throw away the umbrella just because it stopped raining. What is needed however is something to crack down on unions that have become too big, bloated, power hungry, negative adjective, negative adjective, etc and etc. Case in point: The BART union. Paid some of the highest wages in CA. Their wages are so high that they were stifling BART's ability to update and renovate without increasing ticket fares every time they needed to. On top of that high pay they had some godly benefits that nobody in the private sector gets. And they wanted more pay. BART management caved in and gave them a "compromise" that's barely that. It's a more modest pay raise than what they were asking for with a requirement that they finally start chipping in for their retirement funds. BART management had public support on their side after two strikes by the union led to everyone, including Democrats turning on BART. And on the flipside we have businesses cutting every corner they can to boost profits and we end up paying for it when their corner cutting inevitably fails and causes huge and horrible problems. I would list examples but they are far too numerous to cite all of them. Popular ones being Walmart working employees just under the requirements for full time to cock block them and labeling government benefits as their own benefit programs; Chevron not upgrading or replacing old and failing equipment that led to dozens of workers either injured or dead and thousands more exposed to harmful gases. I don't think for a second that they'll leave their low level employees alone or treat them as sacrosanct.
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1 ReplyWhat's your job?
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The union is a good thing but teachers can never really get fired unless they are discriminating against someone who isn't white
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It did when I was with Raleys for a couple months. Once you get passed the 2 month period, you are safe with the union and couldn't get fired for no reason. I was let go right before my 2 months were up for a reorganization.
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There's power in the factories, power in the land, power in the hand of the worker. But it all amounts to nothing, if together we don't stand. There is power in a union. Cookie for obscure reference.
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2 RepliesNo. Businesses have learned to care for their employees, for the most part.
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4 RepliesThere's few reasons I can see for unions to exist anymore. I mostly see them as leftovers from the days when we had labor rights issues.
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2 RepliesUnions are still extremely important. You think employers give a shit about their workers? No. Unions are the only people looking out for you.
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No unions in my state, unless your a mechanic i think.
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The teachers at my school have a Union. They might go on strike because the school is turn to semesters instead of Trimesters which will decrease the time in each class but will increase the amount of classes per day. The teachers aren't to happy about this because. School day will be longer, have less time to teach a class, and might just get payed less.
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10 RepliesI'm part of a Union at Disney. They bargain with Disney every four months for additional benefits for workers. Because of them, my minimum wage will go up to $10 an hour in the next three years.
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Shiiiiit I thought we were talking about onions. This was real trippy to read. :/
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1 ReplyJust curious, what state are you in? I'm looking to join a Local 7. Unions still do protect workers, and in a lot of cases being part of a union makes it easier to get a job.
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WHATS UNIONS
