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Mental health help 'needed in schools' - BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-26685550 I realise that there aren't a lot of Brits on here, but the article is still worth a read. This sort of issue is no doubt also occurring in the USA. [quote]A new website is being launched to help adults spot the warning signs of mental health problems in children. In Scrubbing Up this week, child psychiatrist Dr Raphael Kelvin - who led the project - says if we're to really support children with mental health problems, we need to more aid - including in the classroom. There are at least 850,000 children in the UK with a diagnosed mental health condition and the figure may well be rising. Yet 75% do not receive the support they are entitled to and need. We are, albeit unwittingly, condemning thousands of the country's most vulnerable children to years of distress and lost opportunities. Why? On the one hand, many mental health services for children and young people are underdeveloped and often underfunded. But there's another key problem. Many healthcare professionals, teachers, police, volunteers and others who come into contact with them, do not know what a mental health condition looks like or how to approach the issue. So what needs to be done? 'Missed opportunity' Students with hands up People feel schools need to be able to offer help There are an estimated 9.5m children in the education system, making schools a vital place to start. Continue reading the main story POSSIBLE WARNING SIGNS Loss of appetite or weight loss Waking early Excessive boredom Poor concentration When we polled the public on the issue, 69% said they supported the notion that every school should have a dedicated member of staff on site for children to approach about mental health and well-being issues. Nearly two-thirds (63%) also felt it was important that every school has regular interaction with a specialist from mental healthcare services. And perhaps most striking is that 37% would turn to a teacher for help and advice if they suspected a child had a mental health issue. So we need to be supporting schools to be able to identify, refer and support those children who show signs of mental ill health and make sure they get the appropriate help quickly. Without investment in school mental health provision, we're missing a real opportunity to have an impact. Beyond the school gates, where else should these priorities lie? This is complex topic and it includes further improvement and development of a range of important services. "All too often I see children and young people who enter the health system when they've been struggling with a mental health problem for a long time. ” Getting it right online has to be a key focus as that's where many people turn for information first. The same poll highlighted that over a third of adults would not know how to spot a child with a potential mental health issue. Many weren't aware that poor appetite and weight loss could be a symptom of depression, over half weren't sure if waking earlier than usual could be a sign of mental health problems - and excessive boredom and poor concentration can be causes for concern. And when people don't know, one of the first places they look is the internet. In fact, nearly three quarters of adults polled say they'd use the internet for advice on child mental health issues. There are a lot of good online resources offering advice and information and numerous discussion forums for sharing experience of mental ill health. But with professionals and volunteers who come into contact with children identified as key in spotting the signs of mental problems (and as with physical illness, the earlier these conditions are identified, the better) - a targeted resource for them is needed. MindEd, an online tool launching today, contains bite-size learning , individually tailored to equip any one of the one million professionals and volunteers working with children and young people - including teachers, sports coaches, police, healthcare professionals, social workers and many more - with the skills to support and identify children with mental health conditions. It aims to speed up the time it takes to identify a child with a mental health problem and put them on the path to the most appropriate support and where necessary, the right treatment. It's free, available to everyone, and easy to use. All too often I see children and young people who enter the health system when they've been struggling with a mental health problem for a long time. Better support early on - including specific mental health leads in schools and tailored online support for professionals - could be key to catching issues early. And in a world of squeezed budgets and resource pressure, we need to make sure resources are being directed in the right way; including into the classroom and onto the web.[/quote] It's about damn time. Helping people to deal with their problems in childhood rather than letting them escalate later in life and ruining their opportunities should be a priority, but has been sidelined for far too long. Just to highlight the stats. 9.5 Million children in schools in the UK 850,000 with a [u]Diagnosed[/u] mental health problem. That's the ones who have been able to get access to the mental health services. It would really not surprise me if the actual amount of children with mental illness was double that.

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  • Nah this never happens in the US. It's 100% perfect here.

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    • I bet the school itself is the cause for these mental problems, or parents that are addicted to pills and don't actually parent their kids, or just more doctors watching a typical hyper kid and claiming they have problems and push hard drugs on them like that's a great idea. I think the world is as messed up as it is because we've been pushing pills on too many people for decades. That's a good way to screw up society.

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    • But doesn't everyone have some type of mental "problem" but others can live with it or learn to deal with it

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      • As long as it isn't forced upon the kids.

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        • I honestly think the school environment could be one of the problems. Do parents still tend to send their kids away to schools? As much as I fancied myself a teen rebel when I was younger, I really did lean on my parents for emotional support at times. Without having them around I can imagine bad days could easily turn into bad weeks or bad months. I say this because I think you guys may be suffering from "Asian" syndrome, where the parents thrust their child out into society and assume it's the best thing for them. Humans aren't exactly built for that, we are very functional in small packs, AKA families, an army of robotic faculty won't exactly generate happiness.

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        • Edited by cxkxr: 3/26/2014 1:25:03 PM
          >Assuming these problems aren't a direct result of their environment. >Advocates treating the problem, but not changing the environment which provokes and likely harvests said problems. >"We're sorry for the institutionalized environment that we require you to be in, but here's a therapist and some pills to compensate for that."

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          • We have a lot of Brits here.

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            • Depression these days... I swear kids use this as a -blam!-ing defense mechanism for why they are weird, left out, socially awkward, extremely introverted, feel like they had their heart broken, and so forth. Yes, I said that (I'm sorry for those few who truly do have depression, because you do need the help). I just mean that there are soooooo many cases of depression in kids these days like is it just easier to pass the kid off as being depressed instead of being seeing that the kid is bored and kinda left out or whatever...like the parents would rather diagnose their kid as being depressed than as just being like -blam!- I raised an awkward emo kid that is really weird...but no they go far enough to say all these kids are quote on quote depressed and have a mental disorder instead of dealing with the real issues. I swear its just that these kids aren't built for this shit these days. These days, if a kid somewhat feels hurt, they curl up in a -blam!-ing ball and whine about it.

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              • Pisses me off how depression is being used as a selling point. The damn word is used too often and actual depression is, I feel, quite rare within schools. More people develop a violent and somewhat jaded mindset in schools than they do depression, at least from what I've seen. That is what needs to be looked at, as well as focusing on those with bully mentalities and cracking down on it rather than dismissing bullying as "Just a one time passing thing" to keep parents from getting offended about their precious children.

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              • Edited by Nul Arc: 3/25/2014 10:58:09 PM
                I AM PERFECTLY FINE, MAYBE IT'S EVERYONE WHO IS CRAZY! [spoiler]Nah, but seriously I think the mental health system in most countries needs a complete overhaul.[/spoiler]

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              • [quote]Loss of appetite or weight loss Waking early Excessive boredom Poor concentration[/quote] I score 3/4, and 2/4 of those describe almost everyone that goes to public school that I've met. Hell, I've got a 2 minute long animated/voiced/musiced video project for Mythology due in 8 hours and 45 minutes, and I've yet to put what I have together to see how long it would be. Poor concentration could be a valid point, but when students simply don't care about the course/work, it loses all credibility. So, please tell me that they have more "Warning Signs" than these. There are poorly handled mental health programs everywhere, but it seems to me like they're over-selling it.

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                • I have mixed feelings about this. Its good, but every time a councillor talks to me I shrivel entirely inside

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                  • Inb4 WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL WE DID X AND IT WAS FINE

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                    • [quote]BBC[/quote] -blam!-ing lol

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                      • My thread is extremely relevant to this, didn't see this when I posted it. Maybe if that...person's, issues were addressed as a child, they wouldn't have thought they were and should act like a Doge.

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                      • It costs to much money, plus just about everything can be solved by getting outside and talking a walk.

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                        • Ban mental problems

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                          • Anything can be a sign of poor mental health today and it's -blam!-ing annoying. Just because somebody may tell a lie, that doesn't make them a damn sociopath. Might as well give everybody medication and be done with it. And I'm saying this as a person who has ADD/OCD/ and social anxiety disorders When I was a kid, I didn't get any medications or support for my issues. I was treated like a regular person and was taught/disciplined like one. Now I'm happy I was treated as such because control over my issues is far greater than people who was raised with meds and treated special

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                            • Who's gonna pay for that?

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                              • They should put more money into healthcare and education.

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                                • It would be better to help them than to just stick them with a bunch of anti-psychotic medications and say "okay that's good enough if that doesn't work we'll stick them in a mental institution"

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                                  • like srs all my best friends had depression but were fine . we dont need medicine

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                                    • I know people with tonnes of mental health problems and they have no one to help them. I've been diagnosed with insanity before and that makes me happy.

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                                      • inb4itcoststoomuchmoney inb4theyjustneedtowalkitoff

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