I'm not singling out anyone. I'm saying that we need to treat female gamers with respect because we really don't

you are singling people out when you say "Code of Ethics for Male Gamers" in your title. That is, singling someone out, male gamers.

Yes and if you read it then you would know that I'm only taking to creepers. Most males actually have some kind of code and they actually treat female gamers with respect. I'm guessing that you're not one o them.

People in general have a code that they follow. If she's chill and we can have a good time, I treat her like everyone else, if she's a -blam!- she can get back to the kitchen. Oh, and now you have singled me out, by saying, "Most males actually have some kind of code adn they actually treate female gamers with respect. I'm guessing that you're not one o them." so you can't say you aren't singling anyone out any more.

Wow you really don't read do you. So how would you know if the girl is chill or a bitch if the first thing she hears when see enters the Lobby is "hey baby, what's your name"..............You can't. You are telling people how to interact around female gamers after you get to know them. I'm telling people how to interact around female gamers before you get to know them. Of courses I'm signalling you out because I'm responding to you. DUH

how do you know if she's chill or a bitch? I don't know, may I'll talk to her first and figure that out for myself, then after gaining a first impression and attempting an intelligible conversation I will distinguish if she is worth my time or if she can pack sand. The same way I treat men. In fact, I don't care who gets in the kitchen to make me a sammich so long as there's no damn crusts. If you are offended by "hey baby, what's your name" stay the hell of out every bar in the world. Exactly, now you can't say you aren't singling anyone out. That now makes your original statement invalid.

How can you talk to here when someone is harassing her right off the bat. Do you honestly think that she is going to give you the time of day. I like how you think that everything will be fine one YOU talk to the girl that has already been harassed. Let me tell you what's going to happen. She is going to mute the whole team. Have you ever head the saying "you only get one chance to make a first impressing" Well that was her first impressing of everyone in that lobby and it wasn't a good one. [quote]If you are offended by "hey baby, what's your name" stay the hell of out every bar in the world. [/quote] I'm going to go out on a limb a say that you have no girlfriend because that's not how you talk to women. I'm going to have to help you and teach you how to talk to girls because your communication have got to be crap.

I don't know, there is not greater ice breaker with a person then to help them tell someone off that is harassing them. I suppose in this fantastical hypothetical that we've been tossing back and forth, after an act like that I'd hope I get a "thanks" and if I don't then that person can pack sand. It's nice to see that you have a crystal ball on your soap box for you to tell the future on how every harassment interaction is going to go. If there is one thing I have experienced with women who are gamers, is that they can take care of their mother lovin' selves. It's 2013 and nearly 2014, woman have rights and they can defend themselves. Chivalry is dead man, no need to be chivalrous if she can pick up her own god damned sword and fight alongside me. I really wish you wouldn't have gone out on the limb because it's going to break. I've been married for 5 years and I have a daughter. What ever snappy remarks you want to make about my marriage is fine and even if you want to throw some jabs about my being a father, also fine. But I do want to remind you. That throughout our little debates, I've refrained from making it personal, and I've continued to dance in the realm of what has been said and facts. It's not just women who mute the whole damned lobby, men do it too. Hell, I do it but that's because I get tired of hearing how my mom likes to shag prepubescents.

Is this before or after she just mutes everyone. It's like If I hear people being racist, am I going to wait for the one person to say "that's not right" or am I just going to mute everyone with a Mic and be on my way. I don't have to listen to you if I don't want to and the same logic applies here. She doesn't have to give you the time of day after something like that happens. Why would she. Please tell me how a chick defends herself on a video game. She can mute everyone, or just leave the lobby. But does these things stop the harassing prick. Of course not. If the prick wants he can keep on being an asshole to female games as much as he wants. Good job on being married. That means that you only understand how YOUR WIFE works. You don't understand other women nor should you. That's not your job. But to talk as if there is no big problem here is not vary smart. You're trying to brush off a serious problem by saying that women have the power to stop it. Yes they have the power to get out of the Lobby, but they don't have the power to stop the guy who is harassing girl after girl after girl. I know that men mute enter lobbies but you never see a guy muting a lobby because he was being harassed by females

You can't stop someone from muting the entire map, you can't even encourage it. Some people want to be social, some don't. That's life. It is remarkable how you preach treating women with respect then you call them a chick. She can defend herself any damn way she pleases, none of my business and not my problem. I'll use your logic here and hopefully you can follow. So if my being married says that I only understand one woman. If you know one 'chick' as you like to put it, who just mutes the whole map because of sexist comments, then you only know one 'chick' and not the entire female gamer populous. So you making rules to run defence for all 'chicks' is irrelevant. you again are dealing in absolutes, you are saying there is 0 men muting from being harassed by females. I would like to see your peer reviewed study on the matter on how you can deal in such an absolute. Women have the power to do as they please, and it is inappropriate for men to pass judgement on and to determine what needs to be done in 'woman issues'. Just like with birth control or abortion. Unless the baby is mine, I have no right to say yay or nay on the matter. Women issues are Women issues. The only thing you yourself can control is how you react to it. If you don't like sexist comments, then don't make sexist comments. You can not control anyone other then yourself. Because when you force someone to do something, like your rules, you are taking away their right to choose, and that is wrong. The world would be a better place if we all learned the difference between tolerance and acceptance.

[quote]You can't stop someone from muting the entire map, you can't even encourage it. Some people want to be social, some don't. That's life.[/quote] ........I'm going to let you read that and figure out where you went wrong. And you can fix it by not having a guy say "hey baby what's your name" How hard is this for you to figure out. It's not like this is some kind of situation that can't be avoided. I said treat them with respect not to treat them like queens. If a chick has a problem with me calling her a chick then I will stop. [quote]She can defend herself any damn way she pleases, none of my business and not my problem. [/quote] So if it doesn't involve you then it's not your problem. Got to love that lazy logic. You're not understanding the the muting of a whole "TEAM" or just leaving the game is not something that rarely happens. This happens quite often. Where a guy is harassing a girl and then the girl mutes the TEAM or just leaves the team. This shouldn't be happening. How would you like it if the kid at your daughters school just started making fun of here. Knowing you you would tell your daughter "She can defend herself any damn way she pleases, none of my business and not my problem" because you're just that type of guy right. Or if someone hits on your wife "She can defend herself any damn way she pleases, none of my business and not my problem". Please show me the story of the guy being sexual harassed by females on video games and I will say that I'm wrong. Even if you do find the one case of a girl harassing a guy you are trying to put that one case on the same level as the 100s of harassment cases against women. How is that right. How are you getting women can do what they want from "treat them with respect" Again you are making a leap that I can't see how you are making. If I don't like sexist comment then I wont make them, but I don't have a problem with the sexist comment I have a problem with the person making the sexist comment.

What is wrong with treating them like Queens? Are you saying that women are not worthy of the utmost respect and treatment? It isn't lazy logic at all, it's not my problem, if someone wants help they can ask for help. If you go off and try to save everyone, didn't you watch the Incredibles? If someone decides the mute the whole map, or leave the whole game or get offended that is their choice, you can't stop it, you can't influence it, it is up to themselves. As the great Katt Williams once said "It is called SELF esteem, it is the esteem of your mother -blam!-in' self." I would hope that I have taught my daughter to defend herself by the time she's old enough to be harassed. It isn't my job to protect her 24/7, my daughter would not be able to grow. It is my job to educate her, and to be there to tell her that she is beautiful and that I love her. It is also my job to make sure that she has all the tools she needs to be successful in this world. Oh, and she has Karate lessons shortly after ballet, because I would rather worry about the poor bastard that trys something, rather than worrying about my little girl if someone trys something. It's just all around raising and independent and strong woman. Go ahead, hit on my wife, she's a good lookin' woman, she isn't my property and I trust her. I don't care where she gets her appetite so long as she always eats at home. I've got no insecurities. Why do you think so many guys take their women to watch Twilight or chick flicks? One day you may figure it out. I don't need to prove that guys get sexually harassed by women over games because 1. I don't care. 2. I don't care and 3. I wasn't the one dealing in absolutes, you don't seem to be getting this concept, so I'm guess you may have a learning disability... Because, part treating someone with respect is to let them do as they choose, or do what they want. There are all sorts of people in this world; different faiths, creeds, colors, nationalities and values. If you have a problem with sexism, never go to Asia, Africa, the Middle East, I can list of so many more. You can't change people, and the world is full of double standards. The best you can do is conduct yourself to the moral compass that you have developed. If you don't like people who are sexist, don't hang around people who are sexist. Do your own thing and these female gamers you are eager to defend will come to you if they choose. In inalienable fact of life, men chase women until women catch them.

Because then you're white knighting and you are truly treating female gamers better then Male gamers. No it is lazy logic you just don't want to admit to it. It's not a self esteem issue, It's just the gamer not wanting to deal with people acting like idiots. I doesn't have self esteem issues and I mute teams all the time. You just said that guys it as well so does that mean that they have self esteem issues as well. Ok I see your problem now, it's clear as day. You are one of those guys that want to settle everything with violence. If your daughter is being picked on you would want here to fight the people who are picking on here. THAT GREAT PARENTING. Karate is supposed to be used as self defense, not a way to settle you issues. Oh and you are ok with people hitting on your wife, ok. So I guess if they slap her ass then you are ok with that because they are just hitting on her. If they ask for her number it's ok because they are just hitting on her. At some point you have to just stop thinking that it's not my problem, because if that's how you think you are going to miss the little things.

So you are saying that it is wrong to treat women to the best of your ability... interesting... It isn't lazy logic. You know, the Police aren't even allowed to stop someone from being attacked, technically under the law. In 2006 the Supreme Court ruled that it is no longer to Serve and Protect it is to Serve and Enforce. The Police can not protect you until AFTER you have been attacked. The Laws aren't there to protect you, they can only protect you if the laws are punishing someone else. Thems just the fact, call it lazy all you want, all you are going to do is get into the middle of things. I'm sure you are either a pre teen or you have high functioning autism because you are having a very hard time grasping concepts that are not your own. Just because you have it made up in your head for the way things should be in your fantasy world, does not translate it into reality. What you have envisioned is a utopia that will never exist. I suppose it is my fault for not simplifying it enough for you to understand. I don't want my daughter to just wander around and brake necks n' cash cheques. When I say "worry about the poor bastard that trys something" I'm implying -blam!-, but then again in your little fantasy world there should be some body near by at all times that will tell the would be rapist "hey, there are these rules up on the bungie forum that says you should be nice". Since when did hitting on someone involve slapping their ass? You really do have a cognitive delay. If someone slaps her ass I hope she slaps him in the face, or calls the cops and gets him arrested. Sure they can ask for her number, she won't give it, I TRUST my wife. Don't talk to me about missing the little things, you are missing some major -blam!-ing concepts. There is going to come a point when you need to grow up. At some point you are going to realize that not only is your original post sexist towards men, but your whole attitude towards women in general is sexist because you seem to think that all women are weak and need the protection of a man. Unfortunately you won't learn when it isn't your problem until you either get beaten up, or stabbed to death for getting into the middle of shit that you aught not to be in. However, I'm getting the feeling that you don't get a lot of outside world experience so I don't think that will ever be a concern, but believe me there is a big, complicated world out there, it's scary, it's ugly and it isn't a nice place where we all hold hands and respect one another. Maybe you haven't been bullied enough just yet, the kids that go to school now from K to 12 don't even get a failing grade because it hurts feelings, everyone wants to stop bullying, which bullying will never go away, however, somethings that these 'bully's' do is down right criminal and should be treated as such. But bullying won't ever stop. You can't force the people to change or be a certain way. That is the basis of socialism and in the ends people will revolt from socialism. It is the way of things. Learn to tolerate the things you can not change. Tolerate, means to suffer with. You are more then welcome to be the way you are, you are who you are. I full on have the right to be who I am and I don't have to explain myself to you. I do so in an effort to try and educate you but the concepts are so far out of your grasp that there is no point. Good luck in your lifes adventure, I really do hope that you lead by example and people follow you in or quest to treating female gamers with respect. But that is the only way you can do it. Realize that when you come across a guy who is harassing a girl and you tell him to stop, he will tell you to go -blam!- yourself and that there is no way to keep it from getting hostile. You may be right for the right reasons, but you are also wrong for the right reasons. I've tried to have you see reason, I've tried to enlighten you to seeing the issue as a whole, it is beyond your grasp for understanding, and in short after the long. You aren't my problem.

I'm going to say one thing and leave it at this. You don't know what other peoples best is. You don't know what other people consider good enough. You are trying to solve your problems the easy way, you care about things that you want to care about and not the important things. You don't know how people function but you assume that everyone functions the same. You are the worst they of person. I'm sure that you are a horrible husband and father. That much I as sure of.