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10/24/2013 3:56:43 PM
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Really though the reason american healthcae is horrible is cause the government is in the market where thee are no profits while the private insurancr are in the more profitablearket. If the government entered the profitable market cost could be brought down.
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  • Edited by BADMAGIK: 10/24/2013 4:09:53 PM
    This is false. The government entering and taking control of the market would cause the price of private healthcare to sky rocket because there is a big difference between being insured and receiving quality health care. Private insurance, the better quality health care will have to charge more for the better service. There were only two problems with our health care system. It was access and cost. That's it. If the government encouraged and made it so the health care system was completely privatized and run at a state level, it would force competition which then in turn, the problems would solve themselves. Competition would make competing companies compete for cost because they would be trying to offer customers the best deals. Accessibility would naturally fall into the deal process. For example, a company would offer things like allowing someone with a pre-existing condition while another would not. Another thing I you would see is insurance companies insuring people out of state which only would benefit the customer since they would have more options.

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  • Actually if you look at medicare you will notice any business in that market will make a loss. Which is why most private companies go for the healthy population. Afterall they can keep getring money and not pay out. Ever wonder why rates hike and you become elligible for insurance when you get cancer. That is because it becomes a condition and they will change the plan for that. Another thing to wonder about is even before obamacare people who claimed insurance a majority of them went bankrupt anyway. That means something. Mainly that health insurance is not an insurance. Kind of like house insurance, like calgary where a flood will not allow you to claim the money even after the flood. Mainly bevause the way to claim it is if it is the flood of the century. Health insurance cannot be managed by private corporation as they want to keep cost low and profits high. So they will keep high maintenance patients out, and keep those who do not have pre existing conditions and are healthy in. If someone had a genetocal issue he or she will still be forced into a high paying insurance plan with little chance of claiming the insurance if certain health problems arise due to their conditions. This industry is rmember first thing first is not a healthcare industry but in the banking and insurance industry. They have nothing to do with giving better healthcare etc. That is in pharmaceutical and hospitals. Not fromninsurance companies.

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  • False again. All you;re doing is regurgitating the same tired argument the left used to get Obamacare passed in the first place.

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  • Also i am not saying Obamacare was good, the biggest problem is that it was huge horrible idea. If the government entered the healthcare business like any other private competitors i would be really happy for them. One simple national healthcare plan with people having the right to opt out and choose private choices if they want to.

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  • Link 1 http://www.cnbc.com/id/100840148 Link 2 http://articles.cnn.com/2009-06-05/health/bankruptcy.medical.bills_1_medical-bills-bankruptcies-health-insurance?_s=PM:HEALTH Let me ask you this with these sources why are 72% of people who claimed bankruptcy due to health care cost insured? And how is it false?

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  • I addressed this already. Go back and look at what I said about cost and access. The things I talked about are not in effect. If they were things would be a lot better. The things I mentioned are my thoughts, not from some jamoke news site.

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  • Edited by risay_117: 10/24/2013 4:38:10 PM
    Some news site is a worse source than your mind. Wow you really are some great mind to be always right. After all if i used you as a source for any of my reports i should be getting a 100%. The true problem is that Insurance companies are not in the business of giving healthcare. This is fact. They are in the business of selling insurance plans. Mainly pay us money and if you need it, according to these terms and conditions we will pay you out. Why is it you wonder that the older you get the plans get more expensive. Not because of access or anything, but mainly because of how the companies have shareholders to be accountable to. If they do not make profits their shareholders want the CEO is the most likely to get fired. Another thing to think about is if the companies are making record profits, why should they compete. Why is it that companies like the mobile companies keep such high charges and not care. The reason is that they are all happy and are okay with this equilibrium of power. After all their paychecks still grow. Also why Canadian Telecom companies have no competition although you have three corporation and yet no monopoly.

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