[quote]The thread is not talking to JUST YOU. Why would you think it was.[/quote] No I didn't take the thread as being directed towards me. I took the statement that said "if you follow these rules creeping will stop". [quote]It would help if people would follow the rules. Why aren't you getting this.[/quote] I'm saying that the people who creep won't [quote]It's not common sense it's you assuming things and what you believe to be true. [/quote] So you're saying that someone who creeps can't be stopped by being banned, and if the creeper makes another account he will be just as willing to make another account and pay for live so he can continue to annoy people just to be banned again? People have their limites. [quote]Clearly it does matter if people creep because it's a problem.[/quote] It only matters if it really affects people in a bad way. Lets face it, we are getting no where here. This is what is basically gonna happen. You are going to say that you are right, I will say no you're wrong, and I'm right, and we are just going to continue doing this until one of us gives up. I'm not going to agree with you, and you aren't going to agree with me. If we don't stop now then this is just going to waste more of our own time. If you can atleast agree on this then you can have the last say. I'll try not to reply.