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originally posted in:The Vanguardians
10/18/2013 1:41:07 AM
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Ok.being a dick is being mean or rude. People are rude to each other all the time online, what you mention isn't anything special.
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There is a big difference between a real problem, and an easy to solve problem. The way to solve it is by muting or reporting the people who do it. That's it. The examples that you listed were actually real problems because they really hurt people, but the thing that you are talking is nothing new. People Harass eachother on the internet, the best you can do is block/report the person and move on. Also, [quote]SniperInTheSnow22h 57m ago Permalink I'm a girl and it's rarely a problem. If it ever get's to be one though I just jump lobbies.[/quote] [quote]CamCamm19h 31m ago Permalink Yawn.[/quote] Cam is a girl btw. Anyway those are 2 girls that don't think it's that big of a deal. So yea, you're wrong.
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What Am I going to you. Sorry but there is no way you can be this stupid. [quote]Well said, sir. I don't call myself as "girl gamer" the slut who biting the controller. I am just a female gamer. For many reasons, Boy/Male gamers need to be respectful, shut their talkholes and enjoy the game. Voila~![/quote] [quote] While you're intentions are just, posts like this will encourage assbaggery. Not deter it. Take bacon breath down there for example[/quote] [quote] PatStarr93 19h 41m ago Permalink I have one of these friends and he likes to say she can get the magic stick which is awkward for everyone[/quote] [quote]My wife gets 3 messages every night we play halo 4...and I delete them :) muahahaha![/quote] [quote] I think this post is a good thing because whenever I play halo I see creepers creeping they say real dumb ass things! I Think all guys should be respectful like I am.[/quote] I mean these post make up most of the thread, but you hang onto the few comment from people who don't agree. Muting doesn't solve the problem and reporting takes time to see action. Clearly you never heard of cyber bullying before. People have killed themselves because people who they don't know were harassing them. You don't know how people will react to being harassed and to say that you do is retarded. You are wrong here. Admit it and move on. Oh and Songbird and Viola are girls as well.
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I don't feel sorry for people who kill themselves over that, when they can easily block the person, and no I didn't read through all of your comments I just scrolled through a few of them. Muting does solve it.
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I'm done with you. You're clearly an asshole. Muting doesn't stop the harasser for harassing.
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It's stops the harasser from bothering the person. Lastly, think about this, what I was saying this whole time is that what you are doing won't stop anyone from harassing girls,people who do that just want attention, if the girl just mutes him he won't get the attention that he wanted. Someone who would threat other people that way wouldn't have the sense to listen to you. It's logic not being an asshole.
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And then the Harasser just goes and harasses another girl. How do I just want attention for commenting on a legit problem. I'm sorry that you are to much of a moron to understand that but it is what it is. You're not using any logic here. You're not fixing the problem, you're just putting a band aid on it. You're ignoring it because you think that once the harasser is nutted then he just stops harassing. You're wrong there. Why would the harasser stop, he would just move on to the next girl and then the next girl. It doesn't stop unless you stop it at the source. Now this is logic. This is how you think about a problem and fix it. What you are saying doesn't fix the problem, but only addresses the problem. If you are to slow to understand that then that's you.
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The harasser moves to the next girl, and is then ignored again, and etc. The harasser will stop once he gets no attention and realizes that he doesn't get anything besides a ban. I never said that you wanted attention. I'm saying that the harasser wants attention. Someone who is that pathetic won't listen to you.
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Edited by AssaultProdigy: 10/22/2013 1:35:38 AMYeah you think that you know how people will think. What makes you think that the harasser cares if he's getting attention. How do you know that that's all that he wants. Some people might just like to harass girls just for the hell of it. You're assuming that you know what's going to happen when you really don't know. Someone who thinks that harassing women is ok will listen to you and that's just sad.
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Are you really any different from me when it comes to how people think? You already acted like saying "no this is bad" will change the way that person thinks. I understand that someone who is like that wouldn't listen to you. I've said this over 10 times already. Anyway what I said earlier will probably stop the people who do it for attention. Anyway the harasser is just doing it for the hell of it then the people he harass can just report the guy, and he will be banned. Solved.
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Yeah because you are clearly thinking of the best possible ending for a situation and rarely does that happen. You are treating this like it's no big deal so of course you are going to look at the best possible ending instead of thinking that thing s could end worse. And when the Harasser just makes a new account then what. You aren't putting any deep thought into this.
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It's more effective then what you're doing. All you're doing is saying "no, bad dog". When the harasser can easily say "lol no". You act like the guy would suddenly listen to you even after girls girls he hit on obvious gave him clear signs that he is not wanted. Muting and reporting the people who do it is the most effective way to do it. How bad can it get anyway?
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Edited by AssaultProdigy: 10/22/2013 10:14:40 PMIt's effective for one person, not the community as a whole. What you are doing is barely doing anything. What you are doing is telling the harasser that the worse they can do to him is mute him. There are no consequences, there is only someone muting and blocking a person that's not going to stop. Stop with the bear minimum. Stop being so damn lazy.
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You are saying that I am saying that there are no consequences when I mentioned that using the mute and report options are the most effective way to get rid of them. Muting the guy stops him from bothering you, reporting him will get him banned. If he just makes another account and doesn't change then he will be banned again if he does what he is doing. Also all you are doing is saying "no bad dog" and you're calling me lazy.... Yea because it took so much effect to say "her harassers.... stop harassing people"
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Mute does nothing and reporting takes time for any action to take place. Why are you not understanding that. You're not getting rid of anyone when you mute them. You are just pressing the big IGNORE button that you have. Muting doesn't stop the troll from trolling, just like ear plugs doesn't stop a person from talking. You just said it, they can make as many accounts as they want to. So what you are suggesting is NOT a solution at all.
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So is your solution automatically converting these harassers to normal people? Not at all. No solution does. What I'm saying will stop people from being affected by it. So here is an example, someone gets a message saying "-blam!-". They ignore it. They continue getting annoying messages from the same person. So the harasser gets muted. He can send as much messages as he wants but the person who blocked him won't be affected by him. Also for the record, trolls annoy people for the sake of pissing them off. If the troll is ignored then he doesn't get what he wants.
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No it's making sure that they are not allowed to play mutliplayers. That is something that is obtainable. You can ban someone for a year and then make sure that they are not able to make another account. What you are saying will stop SHIT. It doesn't stop a damn thing. It's a lazy way to TRY to fix a problem. You're not even trying to stop the harasser and that where you fail here.
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I read your list again, it said nothing about something that would stop them from playing multiplayer. It stops nothing, it just says "no stop doing it". Muting the guy stops them from bothering the person. Are you saying that if I mute someone and I can no longer get any more messages from them doesn't stop him from bothering me? Reporting him gets him banned. Not all the harassers are going to make infinite accounts.
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When did I ever go over the consequences in my list. I didn't. If you would read then you would see that this was a simple list of dos and donts. [quote]Muting the guy stops them from bothering the person.[/quote] But it doesn't stop the harasser you moron. How hard is this for you to understand. Muting is nothing but an ignore button. It doesn't stop the problem. [quote] Not all the harassers are going to make infinite accounts.[/quote] So you're admitting that someone might go the extra mile and make multiple accounts.
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[quote]When did I ever go over the consequences in my list. I didn't. If you would read then you would see that this was a simple list of dos and donts. [/quote] [quote]No it's making sure that they are not allowed to play mutliplayers. [/quote] You said that it stops them from playing multiplayer, but you just admited that it's just a list of dos and don'ts . [quote]But it doesn't stop the harasser you moron. How hard is this for you to understand. Muting is nothing but an ignore button. It doesn't stop the problem.[/quote] Neither does a list of do's and don'ts. Atleast my way stops people from being affected by it. [quote]So you're admitting that someone might go the extra mile and make multiple accounts.[/quote] Eventually the harasser will stop making accounts. A lot of them won't even bother making that many accounts anyway.
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[quote]Yeah we all knew that this was coming. If Destiny is what we think it is then the City is going to be a great place for friend to meet and to show off your armor. It's also going to be a place where creepers roam. We have all be in a match where a girl with a mic come into the game and there are one or two guys that start creeping on her. NO ONE wants to see this in Destiny. So you creepers out there here is a short list of dos and donts.[/quote] That's what I said, I also said that if you follow these rules then the creeping will stop. [quote]Neither does a list of do's and don'ts. Atleast my way stops people from being affected by it[/quote] So a creeper doing the things on this list wont stop creeping.......come on man [quote] Eventually the harasser will stop making accounts. A lot of them won't even bother making that many accounts anyway.[/quote] Can you please stop with the assuming
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[quote]That's what I said, I also said that if you follow these rules then the creeping will stop.[/quote] I don't try to follow those rules, to me it's common sense [quote]So a creeper doing the things on this list wont stop creeping.......come on man[/quote] I've said many times already that they won't listen to you. [quote]Can you please stop with the assuming[/quote] It's pretty obvious, not everyone is going to make a thousand different accounts. Also you forgot about this. People need to pay for xbox live and to play multiplayer on the ps4. Do you honestly someone would go through the effort of making another account and paying more money just to annoy the person? No.
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[quote]I don't try to follow those rules, to me it's common sense[/quote] I don't know why you keep comparing everyone to you. To some people this is not common sense. [quote]I've said many times already that they won't listen to you.[/quote] I'm not posting for them to listen to me. I'm posting this for awareness [quote] It's pretty obvious, not everyone is going to make a thousand different accounts. Also you forgot about this. People need to pay for xbox live and to play multiplayer on the ps4. Do you honestly someone would go through the effort of making another account and paying more money just to annoy the person? No.[/quote] Stop with you're assuming. It's annoying now. You have no idea how people function.
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[quote]That's what I said, I also said that if you follow these rules then the creeping will stop.[/quote] You said that if I followed those rules creeping would stop. So I told you what I do, I wasn't trying to compare myself to anybody. [quote]I'm not posting for them to listen to me. I'm posting this for awareness[/quote] And you were acting like what you said would help so much earlier. So you mean online people harass eachther :O? Shocker. [quote]Stop with you're assuming. It's annoying now. You have no idea how people function.[/quote] It's common sense. So you are saying that people are going to constantly make more accounts and renew their membership for the sake of bothering people? It's not worth the trouble, no they won''t. I guess you jusst have trouble understanding that it doesn't matter if some people creep or not. The only thing that matters is if people are bothered by it which someone can easily stop.
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[quote] You said that if I followed those rules creeping would stop. So I told you what I do, I wasn't trying to compare myself to anybody.[/quote] The thread is not talking to JUST YOU. Why would you think it was. [quote] And you were acting like what you said would help so much earlier. So you mean online people harass eachther :O? Shocker.[/quote] It would help if people would follow the rules. Why aren't you getting this. [quote]It's common sense. So you are saying that people are going to constantly make more accounts and renew their membership for the sake of bothering people? It's not worth the trouble, no they won''t.[/quote] It's not common sense it's you assuming things and what you believe to be true. [quote]I guess you jusst have trouble understanding that it doesn't matter if some people creep or not. The only thing that matters is if people are bothered by it which someone can easily stop.[/quote] Clearly it does matter if people creep because it's a problem.
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[quote]The thread is not talking to JUST YOU. Why would you think it was.[/quote] No I didn't take the thread as being directed towards me. I took the statement that said "if you follow these rules creeping will stop". [quote]It would help if people would follow the rules. Why aren't you getting this.[/quote] I'm saying that the people who creep won't [quote]It's not common sense it's you assuming things and what you believe to be true. [/quote] So you're saying that someone who creeps can't be stopped by being banned, and if the creeper makes another account he will be just as willing to make another account and pay for live so he can continue to annoy people just to be banned again? People have their limites. [quote]Clearly it does matter if people creep because it's a problem.[/quote] It only matters if it really affects people in a bad way. Lets face it, we are getting no where here. This is what is basically gonna happen. You are going to say that you are right, I will say no you're wrong, and I'm right, and we are just going to continue doing this until one of us gives up. I'm not going to agree with you, and you aren't going to agree with me. If we don't stop now then this is just going to waste more of our own time. If you can atleast agree on this then you can have the last say. I'll try not to reply.
