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10/5/2013 1:23:36 AM
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If Obamacare is a bad system, what should we do instead?

This question pertains to both those who feel the Affordable Care Act didn't regulate enough, and to those who say the act as a whole was bad. Clearly and indisputably (and to make things easier I am going to write this paragraph in the context before the ACA), the United States is fast becoming the worst healthcare system in the world. We are the ONLY first world country WITHOUT universal coverage. Costs are increasing as well, [url=http://www.rwjf.org/en/about-rwjf/newsroom/newsroom-content/2008/04/cost-of-insurance-far-outpaces-income.html]the amount people who pay for health insurance increased 30 percent from 2001 to 2005, while income for the same period of time only increased 3 percent.[/url] At the same time, Americans have seen a huge drop in coverage. If you don't like the individual mandate, how do you propose we get more people on health insurance to both increase the pool of buyers to lower costs and to spread coverage to those without care? A bigger controversy is the employer mandate requiring corporations to provide coverage to their full time employees. It doesn't harm small business, they're overcompensated with subsidies. [url=http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/09/25/wal-mart-returning-to-full-time-workers-obamacare-not-such-a-job-killer-after-all/]Even Forbes made an article on how Walmart is hiring more full time employees, despite the worry some companies would cut back hours.[/url] If you don't like the restriction of mandates, what would you do differently to solve the problem? I'm making this thread because I know that most of you did not know there was an ever-worsening healthcare crisis in the United States. Further, you may buy into anti-Obamacare republican propaganda, but what are the republicans doing to solve the problem? So if they're not going to address the problem, what would you do to fix our healthcare system? If you can't find your own solution, who are you to say that the ACA isn't beneficial to the current train wreck our healthcare system would have lead to were it not averted?

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  • I'm in support of it. 1. The ACA allows young adults up to 26 to stay on their parents insurance, something that three-in-four Americans support, even two-thirds of Republicans. [url=http://kff.org/health-reform/poll-finding/march-2013-tracking-poll/]x[/url] 2. ACA bans insurance companies from denying coverage for pre-existing conditions, something that is supported by 83 percent of Americans. [url=http://ipsos-na.com/download/pr.aspx?id=13012]x[/url] (PDF) 3. ACA offers tax credits to small businesses to buy insurance, something that 88 percent of Americans support, INCLUDING 83 percent of Republicans. [url=http://kff.org/health-reform/poll-finding/march-2013-tracking-poll/]x[/url] 4. ACA requires companies with more than 50 employees to provide health insurance, something 75 percent of Americans support. [url=http://ipsos-na.com/download/pr.aspx?id=13012]x[/url] (PDF) 5. ACA provides subsidies to help individuals afford coverage, something 76 percent of Americans support, including 61 percent of Republicans. [url=http://kff.org/health-reform/poll-finding/march-2013-tracking-poll/]x[/url] 6. State-based health insurance exchanges, something 80 percent of Americans, which includes 72 percent of Republicans. [url=http://kff.org/health-reform/poll-finding/march-2013-tracking-poll/]x[/url] [quote][/quote] [url=http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/09/30/five-reasons-americans-already-love-obamacare-plus-one-reason-why-theyre-gonna/]This is the article[/url] that I am quoting from, using their sources. It's a very very good piece, especially coming from a very anti-dem news source.

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