[quote]Really kiddos, just think about it. >Character classes check >team Based game check >Online focused check >rpg elements check >set in 'space' check >randomized level based weapons and gear >check Tell me im wrong, oh wait you will, because you are blinded by your fanboism.[/quote] Here is some of the things that aren't in borderland. •Character creation •More that 4 players in an area •Random items in armour not just weapons •Character appearance changed with new items. Not just the heads and guns. •Set in multiple planets I'm not saying that its not borrowing ideas from borderland. It's taking some great ideas from it. But you could say that borderlands I doing the same. It's borrowed from and standard FPS you can think of and diablo I & II. Which games do you think invented the grey, white, green, blue, purple and yellow items in the first place with random stats. Borderlands 1 & 2 is just Diablo with guns and its an SCI-FI FPS.