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6/21/2013 5:55:57 PM
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I am pro-choice, but it's a lie to say that a fetus isn't a human being.

I'm not expecting to change any opinions, mostly because of how concrete so many people here are in their opinions. Considering that most of us are in high school or college, I can't say as if I expect much sympathy for fetuses, let alone an understanding of why life spans from conception to death. I'm simply stating the facts. Before conception, there are, in the most basic forms, a sperm and an egg. Apart, they are worthless, but together they form life. The moment the sperm meets the egg, the embryo forms. This "mass of cells" cannot move forward without each previous step of development. The six-month fetus could not exist unless the five-month fetus existed, just as the baby could not exist unless conception occurred. That being said, there is only one conclusion that is not subjective: The embryo created immediately after conception IS programmed to become a baby. Let's cut to the chase: There are nine months between conception and the birth of a baby. In that span of time, this baby develops at incredibly fast rate. Within a few short months, said "sac of cells" is now a viable life form. That "useless cluster" quickly becomes just as equal as you and me. What's the point of what I'm saying? You can't arbitrarily define a time when a baby can no longer be aborted. It's ridiculous, but it's (even more-so) absolutely -blam!-ing retarded. A baby's life begins when life beings: Conception. As for myself, I'm pro-choice. Abortion is absolutely not a mother's choice, considering the decision affects both the baby and the father, as well. Abortion doesn't exist because mothers deserve the right to control their own body. The fact of the matter is that they're also controlling another body, and wrongly so. The reason why abortion exists is because people mess up. That reason is horseshit in justifying murder (i.e. abortion), but I get it. I get it because I know that people make mistakes, and a quick boning doesn't deserve a lifetime of consequences. THAT is why abortion is legal. Not because the baby isn't alive. Not because the mother has the right to kill another person because she wants to. It's unconstitutional for the baby. Abortion, per se, is unconstitutional. But we allow it because we have to.

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  • Edited by Quantum: 6/22/2013 12:49:55 PM
    [quote]Let's cut to the chase: There are nine months between conception and the birth of a baby. In that span of time, this baby develops at incredibly fast rate. Within a few short months, said "sac of cells" is now a viable life form. [/quote] Not necessarily, natural abortions AKA a miscarriage could occur. It may simply die off sooner or later. [quote] That "useless cluster" quickly becomes just as equal as you and me. [/quote] No it doesn't, life is defined as consciousness, a sac of cells lacks a brain. If your heart stops beating and you are not brain dead (in that short period of time) you are still alive. If someone dies it means their brain has died. See where I am going? Legal death is brain death. [quote] What's the point of what I'm saying? You can't arbitrarily define a time when a baby can no longer be aborted. [/quote] Um, yes we can. 3 months is more than enough time for the mother to make the decision, and also places it at the convinient point where the fetus starts developing a brain. [quote] It's ridiculous, but it's (even more-so) absolutely -blam!-ing retarded. A baby's life begins when life beings: Conception.[/quote] You know, I was hoping for a much stronger argument for this despite the OP being fairly long. Turns out it went back to the old arbitrary definition. Edit: Did people seriously think I was referring to life in general and not human life in AN ABORTION THREAD? My argument is that death is defined as someone being "brain dead", and by that argument life can also be defined as "not brain dead" when referring to humans. Even if you consider cells to be legally defined as life, that means sperm and eggs cells are also legally defined as life.

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