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Is this bad bill month in Congress?

After CISPA and "Political Approval for Science" bills, I didn't think anything could compare. [quote]The US Senate on Monday passed a bill aimed at ending tax-free shopping on the internet but the move looks set to face fierce opposition before it becomes law. The Marketplace Fairness Act, which has cross-party supporter and the backing of powerful retailers, would give states the power to require retailers with sales over $1m to collect state and local sales taxes for online purchases. The bill has the support of president Barack Obama the majority of senators including Republican John McCain but Marco Rubio, seen a potential Republican presidential hopeful, and Rand Paul both voted against the bill. The bill passed the Senate by 70 votes to 24 but faces a second test in the House of Representatives where internet retailers and conservatives are already lobbying against the tax. House leaders have yet to schedule hearings or votes on their version of the measure. The legislation would overturn a 1992 supreme court ruling that said a state could not force a retailer to collect sales tax unless the retailer had a physical presence in the state. The bill has aligned unlikely parties. Amazon, the largest online retailer, has joined its bricks-and-mortar rivals including Walmart to support the act. Amazon was once a staunch critic of the tax but as it has built more distribution centers it has become liable for sales tax in more states and is now a backer. The largest online opponent is eBay, which has campaigned against the bill and organised a mass protest by its sellers. Other opponents include numerous conservative and antitax groups including Americans for Tax Reform, FreedomWorks and Heritage Action. Ahead of the vote the National Retail Federation called for Congress to "level the playing field" and tax online retailers. "The Marketplace Fairness Act is a commonsense piece of legislation necessary to modernize and streamline our federal and state understanding of sales tax laws so that they can keep current with real world change in the marketplace," said NRF senior vice president David French. "As the retail industry evolves and digital commerce becomes a more prominent portion of total retail sales, it is critical that the tax laws not discriminate between businesses based on how their products are distributed," French said. "This collection disparity has tilted the competitive landscape against local stores, creating a crisis for brick-and-mortar retailers around the country and in your state," French said.[/quote] TLDR: ->Internet purchases to be taxed. ->Backed by major retailers. ->Small internet businesses will suffer immensely. ->Clowngress lobbyists get bigger wallets. Why are US politics so retarded? You know, this is probably one of the first major issues I agree with some modern GOP members in a long bloody time.

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  • [quote]Small internet businesses will suffer immensely. [/quote]Isn't it only like an extra $0.06 per dollar? I don't see how that could make that much of a difference.

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  • I'm perfectly content with the tax being implemented. As stated, brick-and-mortar retailers can not compete with online sales. In a lot of locales, not having to pay sales tax puts physical retailers at a terrible pricing advantage. I swear, some nerds on this forum complain when their local Gamestop goes out of business, but then complain when a law that would help level the playing field and allow that said Gamestop to remain open is suggested.

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    • It's disappointing that there are Republicans that support yet another tax. Bravo, RINO's.

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      • [quote]Is this bad bill month in Congress?[/quote]Isn't that every month?

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      • [quote][u]Marco Rubio[/u], seen a potential Republican presidential hopeful, and Rand Paul both voted against the bill. [/quote] Smartest thing my Senator has done since he was elected.

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      • [quote]Internet purchases to be taxed.[/quote] Oh shit Congress what are you doing.

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        • Don't worry, Congressman Frank Underwood will fix all of this.

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        • YAY THE RICH GET RICHER AND THE POOR AND HAVE TO PAY MORE!

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        • If they keep the online tax smaller than the others.. I'm okay with this.. Otherwise.. purchasing stuff online will end up being more expensive than just buying it from the store. -_-

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        • I believe you're actually supposed to report your purchases on your tax forms, so you can pay the appropriate amount on them. Major online sellers like Amazon are backing it just because it's easier to comply with one national law, rather than a number of different state-level ones. I believe Ebay fought it, probably because it would discourage the smaller sellers there. Still, it's ridiculous that there's any backlash to this whatsoever. Online businesses have been getting away with an obviously unfair loophole for long enough, and small [i]physical[/i] businesses have been suffering immensely for quite a while. And entitled buyers feel that they somehow [i]deserve[/i] things without paying taxes because reasons. It ventures dangerously close to pro-piracy arguments, which are absurd.

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        • No no no no no.

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        • A means of exchange not yet taxed?! BIG GOVERNMENT....UNITE!

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