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1/31/2013 6:20:25 PM
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This is why I'm against the death penalty
[quote]Douglas Prade walked out of an Ohio prison this afternoon after more than a decade behind bars.
The former Akron police captain convicted of the 1997 murder of his ex-wife was set free at 4:26 p.m. today from the Madison Correctional Institution in London, Ohio, said Summit County Chief Assistant Prosecutor Brad Gessner
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"Based on the review of the conclusive Y-STR DNA test results and the evidence from the 1998 trial, the Court is firmly convinced that no reasonable juror would convict the defendant for the crime of aggravated murder with a firearm,"[/quote]
While his sentence wasn't the death penalty, but it was life in prison. Some people think that the death penalty is justified, I think it's safe to err on the side of caution to make sure we don't execute any innocent people.
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1 ReplyIf we have SOLID evidence that the person convicted did the crime, and it was atrocious. What is wrong with the Death penalty? He's going to die anyway if you put him in with the general inmate population. If you really wanted to give someone dignity while administering justice to their horrible acts, you would kill them yourself (by yourself, I mean the Death Penalty). Not every case involving Capitol Punishment is so Cut And Dry as you're making it.
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5 RepliesI'm also against the death penalty. Believe it or not, it is actually more expensive to execute a prisoner than to have them in jail.
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Reserve it for undeniable evidence, so we can be rid of the burden.
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16 Repliesdidnt even read op, just had one question op. someone kills your mother and family then what should the punishment be? ur fd up if you say prison
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That's why you make absolutely sure that they did it.
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i think we should have a '2 strikes and you're out' system. the first time you commit a life-imprisonment-sentenceable crime you serve your time, get rehabilitated (this would be after massive reform of the rehab system btw) and are let out into the wild. the second time you have proven that you can't be rehabilitated and you can't live alongside the rest of society and so should be ejected from it. note that this would be after reform to make it significantly less expensive to execute someone than keep them alive.
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So what if the death penalty would be applied to people who we know are 100% guilty either through video or some other form of proof? Would you still support the death penalty in this case?
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1 ReplyI don't entirely disagree. But now that DNA evidence can prove someone's innocence, I think that the death penalty should only be used in cases which they have strong DNA evidence.
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Edited by realdomdom: 2/1/2013 1:29:32 AMThe Death Penalty brings murder, never "justice".
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This should make you more adamant about fixing the broken judicial system, not the punishment. That being said, i believe in any trial where the Death Penalty could be handed down, concrete, damning evidence must be present and verified in order for the punishment to be given.
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Wouldn't you rather a crim suffer than get the easy way out?
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Now that I think of it, if it came down to a reformation of how the Death Penalty works, I'd limit it to killers of 5 or more people, meticulous, unapologetic, and deranged killers who are not proven to be criminally insane, and child rapists. I'd see Sandusky given the shot in a heartbeat.
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3 RepliesI'm against the death penalty because it's expensive as all -blam!- and is applied unevenly with minorities being targeted more than whites. And all of this is on top of the fact that there are some prosecutors who like to speed it along for a quick resolution, no matter how factually wrong it is. Case in point: Texas executing a retard. It's not mentioned here, but it was in my local paper yesterday, but there was no weapon found in his wife's murder, no witnesses, nothing. But, there's a but Mad Max, I am for the death penalty under certain circumstances. People like Adam Lanza should have been executed post haste. Clearly guilty beyond the shadow of a doubt, he will either spend his life in a mental ward or in a jail cell. Save all of our time, and money, and kill the mother-blam!-er.
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Are you saying there's no case where the margin of error in the juries decision is so low that a possibility of an incorrect sentencing is next-to impossible? Especially with cases done in the age of DNA evidence?
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10 RepliesAmerica is so silly with these kind of things. > Is there a doubt that the supposed guilty person is indeed guilty? > Yes? >Don't kill them. > Is the convict completely guilty without a doubt and should receive death penalty? > Yes? >Executioner lines them up and shoots them. It'd really make things simpler.
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That's why you need hard evidence, anyway. It's not like the death penalty would be standard for all murders.
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This also one of my reasons against using the death penalty. That would've been terrible, to kill an innocent person.
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Edited by CTN: 1/31/2013 11:00:22 PMI am against the death penalty for exactly this reason. There are occasionally mistaken convictions, and we shouldn't risk executing an innocent person.
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1 ReplyIt cost too much and takes too much time. And sometimes innocent people die.
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12 RepliesDeath penalty is valid if there's no doubt that the victim is guilty.
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I'm against it because it costs much more than letting the person rot in a cell forever. With the appeals, paying people to listen, those appeals happening many times over years, then making the injection since it's the most "human" thing to do, that adds up a lot. There's also the chance of an innocent being sentenced to death. Besides, "an eye for an eye makes the whole world go blind."
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5 RepliesIt's not a harsh enough punishment, life in prison would be far worse if our prisons weren't so luxurious. Also, you're only allowed to kill someone who is a DIRECT threat to the life of another. Once someone is in custody they are no longer a thread.
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1 ReplyMistakes are common, but I believe that the court is doing it's best to avoid them. I'd rather not pay for selfish, dishonest outlaws through my taxes.
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1 ReplyI support the death penalty, but only in extreme cases (such as serial killing or mass shootings) and only with overwhelming evidence (something incontrovertible, like multiple eyewitnesses or a pile of bodies in the basement; not just a single hair or something like that).
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Its one of MANY reasons I don't support it.
