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Edited by LeGrandMonsieur: 9/13/2026 7:59:40 PM
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Starting a group PECT...stand up

Starting a group to correct an injustice that has gone on for far too long. People for Ethical Cloves Truth will be dedicated to righting the slanderous lies told about Cloves Brae and exposing the propaganda of the Ishtar Corrective. Now that the truth has been exposed about how the Ishtars went to Neptune to create a rival Traveler and how they genetically modified the people of Neptune and forced them into service, it's pretty clear the Ishtars were not the good guys they portrayed themselves to be. Considering Cloves Bae was their rival, and clearly smarter than all of them, it's clear that hateful rhetoric they spread about Cloves is highly questionable. It seems apparent the Ishtars were jealous of Cloves, because of his record of scientific success (which is still benefitting guardins to this very day). In examining who he really was, and what he left behind, it's clear that his genius should be celebrated. Yes, he was a harsh parent who wanted the best for his children, but what parent doesn't. Aside from that one criticism, whats the real evidence he ever really did anything wrong. Hopefully, more people will see through the fog of lies spread over time and come to recognize Cloves for the brilliant humanitarian that he actually was.
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  • Edited by jhermannITJ: 9/13/2026 1:26:39 AM
    Maybe not the progenitor of his corruption though seemingly complicit. It's a good time for this. 713 [quote]7. Through negotiation and horse-trading with her superiors, [u][b]Awoken Paladin Kamala Rior[/b][/u] provided me with a device capable of sundry high-physics measurements I will not detail. It reveals that Europa is saturated and interpenetrated with dark matter loops. This is a sign of the interest and attention of the Nine. Their power and influence depend on the mass of nearby stellar bodies, and Europa falls within the sphere of Jupiter—as mighty a gravitational gatherer as anything outside the Sun itself. But even in this bastion of the Nine, Europa is a focus of particularly intense observation. We have often speculated that Xûr is a construct made from the repossessed body of a Jovian colonist… but there are no known records of colonies on Europa. So what draws the Nine here? Unclear. Their interests are opaque. In any case, the gaze of the Nine is no reason to prohibit Europa— Guardians have gone much further into their influence before.[/quote] 7 [quote]13. In conclusion, I cannot find strong strategic reasons to maintain the interdict on Europa. [u]We lifted the interdict on the Moon not five years ago, resulting in a series of strategic key victories and intelligence findings… [/u][b]but also triggering the arrival of Oryx, an event that gave Ghaul his Light-suppressing technology and ultimately led to the awakening of the lunar intruder.[/b] Perhaps Europa will prove as consequential? We cannot shrink from new discoveries simply because they may lead to new challenges. Victory, after all, requites escalation. I recommend LIFTING THE INTERDICT.[/quote] 13 That comes from Braytech. Those are Clovis's logs. It's as I said. Paladin Rior on order of the Queen gave Clovis the tech, he gave to Ghaul to allow for the Red War. And he tortured animals and people... look it up. And he experimented on his own children. He admits to all of this. This has existed in the lore for years, btw. One of the reasons I know Byf is a fraud. You don't need a literature degree to see what I'm pointing out in Clovis's logs. Clovis was obviously in contact and working with Mara Sov via her proxy Paladin Rior. Who gave Braytech the Technology that allowed for... EXPLICTY [quote]triggering the arrival of Oryx, an event that gave Ghaul his Light-suppressing technology[/quote] Clovis claims credit for this. We've had this for years now. My theory was never a theory, it's literally in the lore. And it connects Mara to the instigation for Oryx's invasion and Ghaul's attack on the first city. Clovis tells us via his logs. [quote]Length – metre (m) Mass – kilogram (kg) Time – second (s) Electric current – ampere (A) Temperature – kelvin (K) Amount of substance – mole (mol) Luminous intensity – candela (cd)[/quote] The sundry high physics measurements ☝. 7 [quote]Awoken Paladin Kamala Rior provided me with a device capable of sundry high-physics measurements I will not detail.[/quote] Why not? They're standard. What else does the device given to Braytech by the Awoken actually do? Surely, Clovis had the technology to record standard metric analysis. What does the tech do that the Awoken were giving Clovis? Maybe this? Probably this.... [quote]We lifted the interdict on the Moon not five years ago, resulting in a series of strategic key victories...[/quote] [b] ...triggering the arrival of Oryx, an event that gave Ghaul his Light-suppressing technology[/b] [quote]Through negotiation and horse-trading with her superiors[/quote] Who's Rior's superiors? 😇👍💠 I told you. Do [u][b]NOT[/b][/u] trust the Sovs.

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