[u][b]I want you in there having fun in PVP[/b][/u] so I have to share that I am having a very good time in there. Specifically in [b]Control[/b]. I don't know why to force yourself into GG Supremacy unless you are having fun? Let it go... life is short.. chase fun. Also, of course... some matches may be off for "external" or even "internal" reasons... this post is not to talk about this. ...And you should know > I like to test weapons... I switch weapons every match.. so I'd actually like to talk about specific weapons but let me talk about "the thing" to try. [b]HIP-FIRE[/b] specifically [b]HIP-FIRE SHORT RANGE WEAPONS[/b] Never really liked doing that before... but Triple Laureate made me think of doing it... cause I couldn't really figure out where to place spread shot in PVP (I'm on PC M&K)... and you get several variations to try > which for a weapon tester is a joy. [b]Training wheels for short-range Hip-Fire[/b] Looking back on it I threw everything at making it work and now I see that it was a training wheels approach. But the cool thing is you don't need the training wheels...but this is a good 1st step imo and you may want to try it: I switched to Lunafaction Boots because they provide hip-fire accuracy (every class has a version of this)... I used Shrewd Survivor armor because they also help hand cannons, smg, heat weapons..etc. I also added all mods to favor the short range weapon (targeting, dex, reload, flinch) but all that sets the stage for you to feel confident to try hip-fire and get a feel for it [u]but its not even needed[/u]. What is needed IMO is freehand grip mod on the weapon (its possible its not needed but I use it everytime) ...and so you use your long-range weapon as you normally do but when you switch short you go hipfire. Defensive/offensive short-range hip... so much fun. You are still aiming... its not conquering the whole lobby its just a very solid fun new approach. I am enjoying the crap out of it. [u][b]Specific Weapons Tested[/b][/u] [i]try these they are great in short-range hip-fire![/i] Triple Laureate Sarpedon-D Survivor's Epitaph Pizzicato Breachlight Vulpecula Fimbulwinter Snitch Brigand's Law Optative Modified B-7 Pistol ...will try to add more Would really like to hear if you are willing to try this - how it goes for you... and hope you become a fan of the weapon variety in the game for PVP.. the fair balanced gunfights is where PVP/Control becomes infinitely replay-able & fun, imo. Happy to discuss specific weapon rolls. legit not april fools :)