If we the guardian succeed in binding all the 9, and they all were to die… wouldn’t this mean death could triumph over the traveler finally? Call me nuts but frankly who’s to say the winnower isn’t setting the stage up where we are their actual “knife” in the flower game:/
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Considering the fact that everyone (Characters in game and Bungie) stopped mentioning the Winnower after we killed The Witness, yes. The Winnower is winning. When the bad guy is able to make you forget they exist, that is when they are at their most dangerous.