Someone asked me what was fun before edge of fate and the portal. To me a person with multiple accounts and over 10k hours there was a lot that was fun. It is different for everyone but for me it was the ability to log on and go anywhere and do anything and get viable rewards. I work a stressful job and when i come home I want to relax and enjoy playing destiny not grinding and small amount of content that is always harder no mater how strong I get. Stuff i have to -blam!- multiple negative modifiers and deal with timers on everything and focusing on getting a good enough score to get good loot. I had fun playing gambit and multiple different pvp modes like mayhem. Playing seasonal content with new story gear and weapons was fun even if it wasn't always the best stuff it was new nd fresh and by the time it got boring it was time for the next season. Sometimes you just want to get on and run some strikes with random guardians without worrying if the modifiers are going to be tortured much to finish because it's ultimate difficulty and punishment is the new end game. Lots of stuff was fun back then because we weren't forced into this little box of punishment they call the portal, where instead of playing hown i really want to play and feel like a god killer im suppose to be im playing pick your punishment, im waiting for pinhead to pop in at any min like im in a hell raiser movie. Don't get me wrong the portal could be okay if we dont have to always run at a negative and always run negative modifiers with timers for everything.