Except they don't. Sweatcicle has talked a little bit about the few summits he's attended recently. He said Bungie didn't really want any feedback, they just wanted a bunch of yesmen to mindlessly clap away at everything that was shown. He even mentioned how Gladd just came out and said Bungie should make D3, look what happened to that feedback. Am I saying Content Creators are completely absolved from blame? No. They could have refused any summit invitation. They could have chosen not to promote this game. They could have played literally any other game in the world. But Destiny is in the position it's in because of Bungie. And as for the Content Creators, it's their fault for making their entire career around one video game. That never works.

It depends which content creator people like unknown and mushroomZ they are the reason why the game is f***** u* because they're the ones who told bungie to make the game harder make the game tougher don't improve reward don't improve content they wanted everything to be red barred back when shadow keep came out... What's interesting is the content creator unknown of the people that has been on his videos is the same guy the really chubby white guy from the renegade stream Noah... That's why I believe that the content creator unknown he has a lot of power over decisions when it comes to content in destiny. Most importantly unknown was also one of the streamers who told bungie to make escalation protocols so difficult to a point where almost 10% of the player base couldn't even complete the content bungee had to decrease the difficulty... Also the same streamer who praised over niobe labs you know the activity that only 5% of the player base were able to complete. Also the guy Mushroom contact creator he is so toxic that if you say something bad about the game where you want the game to be easier or more balanced he will actually ban you off stream.. Basically I'm saying here is if a streamer or creator is toxic towards players in the community most likely usually they are the reasons why the game is f***** u* in the first place. Toxic players want the game to be harder whereas content creators who are not toxic who care about the game they are the ones who don't care if the game is hard or easy as long as the game is balanced and rewarding on harder content such as Fallout.

They do have an impact on social field but average players actually hold the most influence. So stop the blame game and stop spending money on things you know bad and continue to use it while you say it’s bad.

[quote]Bungie keeps listening to content creators and this is the results, unfun game stupid modifiers only to pleasure a few. The players who built Destiny are more important than a few entitled arrogant streamers.[/quote] No, Bungie is. At the end of the day it's up to Bungie to filter out the noise and make the best choices. Datto didn't force Bungie to make the game harder at gun point. Aztecross didn't kidnap a devs family unless they made the game more boring and I don't have a third person to name, but I'm pretty sure they aren't the reason why we're all here right now. Don't blame the consumer, blame the corporate machine.

Bungie is the problem, they made this garbage.

💯💯💯💯 Absolutely They listen to content creators(1% of the player base) instead of the main player base.

It’s the unrealistic thought of things are going to get easier. It’s no one’s fault it’s just because we want to get on absolutely rock a raid boss without being punished for revives and scores. Which is why majority people are opting to find a hacker to make the encounter trivialised. What the game really needs at the moment is and this is just my opinion 1st point of call give players all 500 gear for free as an apology for the killer of a grind and actually make the decent changes for renegades. Gives everyone for the rest of the season to get tier 5 gear and feel less pressure. for players who are already at 500+ give them some enhancement cores exotic engrams The grind is what stopped most players cause 90% of people playing have a job and priorities the grind killed us. tier 3 for us while people who did this as a job were showing us a promise lands we would never reach… “I got 9 tier 5’s for doing one crucible match” I get the frustration on that part cause tier 2/3 is just trash compared to tier 5. But that’s not aztecross’s fault his career path was to become a streamer and to show us the good parts of the game he loves and any game he plays at that point. 2nd do a community event again? Gjallarhorn galore week? Make players feel like a hacker and a destroyer. 500% extra damage no reloads heavy ammo replenishes overtime. Can do something for pvp along with mayhem with heavy 2x health 2x health regeneration just go to town and have fun. Certain targets give emblems, shaders, ghost shell, etc. sure star horse can give us some magic buff again? 3rd remove the 2 piece and 4 piece bonus from gear no one truly cares about it yeah it adds a different level but you can do it on mods. We’re more bothered about how it looks. This opens the game up without having to come up with ideas for 2 piece and 4 piece bonus for crota gear. Instead it’s “I killed a raid boss and got a tier 5 chest piece and tier 5 word of crota” if someone gave me a mod instead of set bonuses you’d put more thought in what you’re gonna put on instead of a resist mod (multiple solar kills mod that heals you but costs 4… yeah I’ll take that. Multiple void weapon kills grants a void breach.. etc) the 11th slot for tier 5 is the perfect idea like that’s the chase. That’s just my opinion though most people would have other ideas or see something else. Everyone wants this game to be good does no favours pointing a finger at everyone.

I have minimal interest in content creators, but I don’t blame them. They’re entitled to their opinions like anyone else. For me, Bungie is the problem. Bungie sucked upto them with freebies, studio invites etc.. Bungie chooses to engage with them repeatedly. All of the blame for the state of this game as well as the mess that is Marathon lies squarely with Bungie. Everything is a result of their decisions and actions.

Most of them even promoted edge of fate, even with their abysmal numbers and player drop off. If a Bungie employee actually came to either this forum, or their own Reddit page and read some insightful suggestions on how to improve the quality of their game, perhaps edge of fate wouldn’t have flopped. Also if Pete parsons and senior management didn’t ruin Bungie with corporate greed, lay offs, and a car collection maybe we would be in a better place.

Im pretty sure all creators who were asked to summits said bungie just ok ok at them and dodnt listen. Bungie is responsible for their decisions noone else. Did the streamers code in these changes? Did they get paid for their ideas? People just look to blame anyone, the game gameplay wise is still great it's the lack of drive and passion and the missing devs that are all on bungies shoulders. This is bungie and bungies fault alone.

Some creators clearly had communication with Bungie but to what level of input we common folk could only guess. I think of those creators who are gifted various "Collectables" or "Tat" if you prefer such as replica weapons, hunter cloak, decorative lithos etc (Check copyright fellas) ;) But ultimately Bungie is where decisions were made and if those decisions were influenced by suggestions from creators then blame could be laid at either door but Bungie in the main.

Modifiers are a good idea but executed very poorly by typical Bungie. Dunno if they’ve heard of the Boon/Bane system they have in other games but it encourages build crafting. Even Destiny: Rising does this. Why a mobile game is superior to its console counterpart is deeply sobering.

Content creators are also leaving the game dude, all of this is the result of Bungie decisions. You're barking at the wrong tree.