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3/12/2024 10:30:28 AM
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Why is Bungie against supporting Linux/SteamOS?

Hey, long time player here, switched over to Linux a week ago and didn't really pay much attention to the drama Bungie had with SteamOS and how they basically refuse to allow Linux users to play Destiny 2 (and potentially future games). I wish to know why they are so willing to shun a portion of the market when they are all of inclusiveness. Are they afraid that Linux users, with their very customizable Operating systems, can circumvent security features? If that's the case, then how bad is your security? Halo Infinite Multiplayer has built in Linux support and has PvP as the main appeal, so any talk about "making pvp a more safer experience" sounds like an excuse. As for PvE, I can play Warframe through SteamOS and have a grand time, sure it's slightly unstable but it works well enough to enjoy it with my friends who play on Windows. Even with BattleEye as their anti-cheat, BattleEye supports Linux/SteamOS and all the developers have to do is flip a switch to enable said support. Bungie's refusal to do so is very disheartening. I don't really see how not supporting Linux/SteamOS helps Bungie at all. Sure, Linux only encompasses 4% of the market, but it's still apart of the market that plays/wants to play Destiny 2. Additionally Linux is widely used across many different technologies and its user-base is expanding, besides, isn't Bungie's servers running on Linux? I don't want to stop playing Destiny 2 as it is a very good game, but I am not reinstalling Windows just so I can play Destiny 2. If they refuse me entry just because I use Linux, then I will take my leave until they allow me entry again.
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  • Edited by A_mo: 3/12/2024 1:21:41 PM
    [quote]Are they afraid that Linux users, with their very customizable Operating systems, can circumvent security features? If that's the case, then how bad is your security?[/quote] I don't know very much about this stuff but when I read about it it did sound like this was the possible issue. And it sounded like saying that there should be security measures that would stop 100% of the potential problems would be a pretty pie in the sky thing to be saying. So that's the security measure.

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    • Cuz it costs money and they probably ran the numbers and didn’t care enough about the small player base on Linux

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    • It really is simple. It is cost to benefit ratio. Linux gamers make an extremely small portion of gaming. Estimates are 1.27% of gaming market share is held by Linux. Even at the full market at 4% it is still less than 25% of MacOS, and that is not supported either. At that point it is hard to justify the expense of adding support for Linux even if you do not include the risks associated with it from a security standpoint. Do you really think that they will sell enough Linux only copies of the game to justfiy not only the recode of the game but salaries of support techs needed for ongoing support of Linux and its almost 1000 variations? Speaking as someone who has tinkered with Linux and seen its capabilities for what it really is, I dont see a company that has no history of supporting it, choosing to do so. Linux is in a classic catch 22 situation, not enough people use it for it to matter to devs and it does not have enough people to use it because devs dont support it. [quote]Are they afraid that Linux users, with their very customizable Operating systems, can circumvent security features? If that's the case, then how bad is your security?[/quote] The game was built for Windows, it has security that was designed for Windows. Any application built from the ground up for Windows would have security vulnerabilities when used in Linux's ecosystem that allows everything from the kernal up to be accessed and tweaked by anyone with a keyboard and a little bit of googlefu. [quote]If they refuse me entry just because I use Linux, then I will take my leave until they allow me entry again.[/quote] As in your right, I just would not hold my breath. Destiny and loads of other games have shown 0 interest in Linux, its just not worth while as a business decision.

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      • Bungie can't handle psn xbox and pc. Do you really think they can handle Linux too?

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