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11/13/2023 9:32:29 AM
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Honestly I feel like most bows feel terrible I honestly don't know how people have come to enjoy them. The only bow I enjoy is Leviathan's Breath, and that's because it actually feels powerful.
If it were up to me I'd make them a special ammo weapon and have them do sniper damage
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Most people like bows because they one shot reds, chunk shields and both orange and champs, and they have about 150 meters of range (Technically it could be higher but this is when arrows and bullets despawn). The exotics are even more powerful with Trinity being the best ad clear weapon in the game at the cost of less damage against majors/champs Monarque being one of the best overload killers while being good at ad clear and major chunking Wish-Ender....Is kinda just Arbalest but infinite ammo and is the only bow that in pve is honestly just busted Hierarchy while not being the best is the highest dps primary at about 20 meters and is about 3rd when under that And Ticcu being a a mix between Hierarchy and Trinity having great ad clear and damage but being outclassed by those two in their specific spot
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Edited by pcln3806: 11/13/2023 9:35:57 PM[quote]Hierarchy while not being the best is the highest dps primary at about 20 meters and is about 3rd when under that[/quote] Is this still accurate? I can’t find any damage testing after lightfall comparing primary weapon dps. I know pre lightfall hierarchy had the best dps potential. The thing is kinetic weapons got a damage increase when damaging health (from 1.05->1.1). The bonus wasn’t that big (for primaries at least) but I’m unsure if it changed which primary was best, especially after the touch of malice buff
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Last I checked was season of the deep so before Touch's buff but after the kinetic buff. I'm a bit too lazy and also not focused enough on D2 to do testing atm. However I do know Touch's buff was only a 10% overall increase despite saying 20% so I'm not sure if the it is since if I remember correctly there was a decent gap between 20+ meter Hierarchy and both Outbreak/Touch
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Bows maybe used to 1 shot red bars but I have seen a bow 1 shot since Season of the Seraph. I used Wish Ender for the PsiOps: Moon GM and it still took like 2 or 3 shots to take out red bars. I only used it because it has no damage falloff and regens a ridiculous amount of super on hits
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Edited by WinterSolstice: 11/13/2023 9:56:49 AMThey only have issues in GM's when bungie doubled the hp of enemies in GM's from about 15K to 30K which is almost enough to block special weapons. Some red bars can even tank snipers. GM's and Neomuna enemies are just super overtuned in the hp since Bungie was too lazy to find a way to make it challenging without the usual increase to hp and damage they usually do (Plus I think this was partially done in response to the shield change they made where instead of 99% resistance it's only 50%)
