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7/1/2023 6:43:00 PM
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They should add the text "defeating slowed combatants grants grenade energy" Makes it amazing in PvE without really changing its viability in PvP (even if the DR is awful now down to like what 5%?)
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[quote]They should add the text "defeating slowed combatants grants grenade energy" Makes it amazing in PvE without really changing its viability in PvP (even if the DR is awful now down to like what 5%?)[/quote] Would be the perfect change to it.
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Whisper of torment and whisper of shards does that. Plus grenade mods on your armor.
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[quote]Whisper of torment and whisper of shards does that. Plus grenade mods on your armor.[/quote] Neither fragment does that.
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You are correct. My point was creating grenade energy I guess. My apologies. Whisper of torment: “you gain grenade energy each time you take damage from targets” Whisper of shards: stasis crystals boosts your grenade recharge rate. Shattering additional stasis crystals increases the duration of this benefit. Use chill clip. Or the exotic stasis bow. Or the stasis trace rifle. Creating crystals and shattering them gives your grenade back. Like I stated… using the duskfield on targets reduces enemy damage by 50%
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Edited by Bore: 7/1/2023 11:48:38 PM[quote]You are correct. My point was creating grenade energy I guess. My apologies. Whisper of torment: “you gain grenade energy each time you take damage from targets” Whisper of shards: stasis crystals boosts your grenade recharge rate. Shattering additional stasis crystals increases the duration of this benefit. Use chill clip. Or the exotic stasis bow. Or the stasis trace rifle. Creating crystals and shattering them gives your grenade back. Like I stated… using the duskfield on targets reduces enemy damage by 50%[/quote] While that’s all great, the exotic still has less uptime on its focused ability than light subclass equivalent exotics, which have significantly power crept renewals. The exotic itself needs a way to helps its uptime, otherwise stasis will remain subpar in comparison.
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Edited by Pazsy: 7/1/2023 7:40:00 PMNo. Because of how awful the cooldown is with renewal grasps it barely makes a difference. Why in the world should I put in all this effort into getting my grenade back with mods on top of mods when I could just use strand and have 70% DR at all times with woven mail AND have my grenade back in SECONDS? I should not have to make a top tier build for an exotic to be worth using even a little bit (which renewals even with the whole build is still outclassed 10 fold by anything else). The nerfs to renewal grasp make zero sense. ZERO. Just make it so when you defeat a slowed target with renewals on you get grenade energy, this alone would make it worth using without having to jump through 20 different hoops to make it [i]kinda[/i] okay-ish
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I am not trying to convince anyone to use it… Nor am I saying it is the best build in the game. But it takes seconds to get grenades.. sometimes immediately if you are freezing groups. I get what you are saying, nor are you wrong with other builds… But I am enjoying the renewal grasps build I have. Were they better pre-nerf? 100%… But they are definitely not bad at all… especially with no seasonal mod dependency attached. The weakness is the damage taken reduction.. I do not think it works well or at all except against majors and bosses… and that is, at max, 15 seconds I think. I have 100 resilience, 100 recovery and I feel like my healing gets slowed and my resilience means nothing. I can get the grenades, I can not tank damage although I should be.
