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4/19/2023 7:28:45 AM
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It's a fusion rifle. It's treated as an auto for certain parts, but it's still a fusion. Uses fusion mods and gets fusion buffs
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Refer to Vex Mythoclast's primary fire and previous patches, where it's stated to be identical to a High-Impact auto rifle in terms of functionality.
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You said it yourself functionally. It however, does not identify as an auto rifle. Woke Joke. Compared to High impact autos, it has almost no recoil, a faster fire rate and way better stats. Why? It's a fusion rifle.
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Edited by Drakrylos: 4/19/2023 11:01:08 PM[quote]You said it yourself functionally. It however, does not identify as an auto rifle. Woke Joke. Compared to High impact autos, it has almost no recoil, a faster fire rate and way better stats. Why? It's a fusion rifle.[/quote] Okay the woke joke made me laugh, good one. Either way, the faster fire rate is negligible, a mere 30 isn't going to make or break it. Also, the stats and recoil match most higher tier 360 Autos. Saying it's like that because it's a Fusion Rifle is horribly incorrect, however. It's weapon classification, due to being a unique case, doesn't influence its performance, as it doesn't correspond to any of the Fusion Rifle frames/archetypes. Ergo, it doesn't inherit their properties.
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Still a fusion rifle. Even has a built in linear. Plus It benefited from fusion rifle buffs a little while back.
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Edited by Drakrylos: 4/19/2023 11:12:09 PMIt actually did [b]not[/b] benefit from the general Fusion buffs as, again, it doesn't inherit the properties of any of the Fusion Rifle archetypes/frames. This is common misinformation. The Linear Fusion mode is a big backup to my point of Bungie giving more importance to functionality over classification, interestingly. Despite Mythoclast being classed as a Fusion Rifle, [b]its Linear mode actually HAS been affected by general LFR changes as time has gone by.[/b] It was recently affected by the 15% damage nerf that LFRs got, and it was also affected by the LFR aim-assist nerf a while back. The above situation directly contradicts the [i]"because it's a Fusion Rifle"[/i] argument, since if it were actually true, then the LFR changes [b]shouldn't[/b] have affected Mythoclast's Linear mode due to its standard Fusion Rifle classification.
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It uses fusion rifle mods and benefits from fusion rifle related things such as the Rain of Fire? Exotic Warlock boots. Back when that particle mod for Fusions was in the artifact. Vex got full use of said mod. It's a Fusion Rifle.
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Yes, nobody has denied that. Please don't fall into a Straw Man argument like the other person. That doesn't change the properties it inherits, however. Again, going back to the LFR changes affecting its Linear mode [b]despite being classed as a regular Fusion[/b].
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The main point is it's a fusion not an auto so it won't get auto buffs. It's that simple really
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Edited by Drakrylos: 4/19/2023 11:34:35 PMYet it inherits the properties of an Auto and, despite being a regular Fusion, it got Linear Fusion changes. It's blatant inconsistency. To cite an example, imagine you're playing Injustice and there's a skin for Superman that turns him into General Zod. The game even calls him General Zod and everything. Now imagine that Superman gets buffed, but the buff doesn't affect General Zod, [b]despite being the exact same character[/b]. It's the exact same issue. Different name, same properties.
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It's a special case fusion. Like how Crimson is a special case handcannon that behaves like a pulse or burst sidearm. It's never benefited from anything auto rifle related and never will. It has a built in linear mode that gets tuned as a linear for balances sake. I don't understand the argument.
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Edited by Drakrylos: 4/19/2023 11:39:14 PMPrecisely, it's a special case, so it should be adjusted accordingly. If it works the same way as a different weapon type, and that type got buffed, then it should inherit the same buff. Crimson's a peculiar example since it doesn't inherit any properties from any weapon types. Sure, it's a three-round burst Hand Cannon, but there's no other weapon with its shot delay within each burst, nor its stat profile. Mythoclast however, takes everything from 360 autos. The only exception is its negligibly higher RoF of 390.
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No. The Devs have spoken with their silence and thus it shall be.
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Edited by Drakrylos: 4/19/2023 11:51:24 PM[i]Argumentum ex Silentio[/i], I'm afraid.
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In functionality. In reality (lol for video game reality), it's a fusion rifle.
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Edited by Drakrylos: 4/19/2023 7:20:00 PMCorrect, and like other unique cases (such as Crimson and Last Word), functionality should take precedence.
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Edited by FluffyBunnyFeet: 4/19/2023 7:15:55 PMSure, and my Immortal should have gotten the auto rifle buff too, because it fires in full auto as well..
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Edited by Drakrylos: 4/19/2023 7:22:48 PMStraw Man argument. Following that "logic", Machine Guns are also full-auto, therefore they should be primaries and get the 20% AR buff. There's no comparison between a fire mode (full-auto) and a weapon of a different classification functioning (and even being officially stated as such) [b]identically[/b] to another classification.
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Says the guy wanting a fusion rifle to have an AR buff!!
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And that's [i]ad hominem[/i].
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Your position is laughable, and your argument is pathetic. Complaining a fusion rifle didn't get an AR buff...
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[i]Ad hominem[/i] again. Would you happen to have any constructive arguments to provide as to why a weapon that functions identically to another shouldn't get the same buff? Or are you going to keep resorting to fallacies in an attempt to personally discredit me?
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Edited by FluffyBunnyFeet: 4/19/2023 7:40:21 PMBECAUSE IT'S A FUSION RIFLE. There's no other argument required. You and the other kid from the tard yard can't seem to understand that a fusion rifle is in fact not an auto rifle.
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Resorting to more fallacies, got it.
