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Worlds first is worlds first. No asterisks needed.
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  • [quote]Worlds first is worlds first. No asterisks needed.[/quote] If the leaks on the mechanics turn out to be legit then worlds first is tainted, whether the 1st place team used the leaks or not, worlds first won’t be legit due to that information floating around, if the leaks are true, but if the leaks are false then yes, worlds first will be legit.

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  • Worlds first will ve legit no matter what. Unless they do something to get DQd, there is nothing that will "taint" it.

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  • [quote]Worlds first will ve legit no matter what. Unless they do something to get DQd, there is nothing that will "taint" it.[/quote] Leaked mechanics that could possibly be true that give an advantage, that’s what will taint it

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  • Leashed mechanics don't mean -blam!- since everybody can c the info your your arguing for nothing

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  • Even if it were true. It's still not tainted. Worlds first will still be worlds first.

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  • And means nothing just means they are the supreme button pusher congrats and who cares.

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  • Sounds like someone's jealous xD

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  • [quote]Even if it were true. It's still not tainted. Worlds first will still be worlds first.[/quote] With an “*” bc who’s to say the winners did or did not use the information to win. Again it wouldn’t be legit, it’s that same as a boxer putting something in his gloves to allow for a heavier punch, it’s an advantage that allows for the pendulum to swing one way more than the other, pretty much a loaded die

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  • Again, an asterisks isn't needed. They will be worlds first. Hard stop. Regardless if they used the leak or not. Won't change the fact that they will be worlds first.

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  • [quote]Again, an asterisks isn't needed. They will be worlds first. Hard stop. Regardless if they used the leak or not. Won't change the fact that they will be worlds first.[/quote] Worlds first? Yes, legit? No, therefore asterisk is needed

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  • Still no. It's legit no matter how much you whine. Worlds first is worlds first. They'll have earned it either way.

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  • [quote]Still no. It's legit no matter how much you whine. Worlds first is worlds first. They'll have earned it either way.[/quote] Oh ok, so if the leaks are true, and they use said leaks to win worlds first, then it’s legit no matter what, ok got ya. Whether you cheat or not, it’s legit because you are first.

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  • First part yes. Even if you used leaks it's still worlds first. Nothing about using leaks counters the fact that you're worlds first and you earned it. I now see where you're getting lost. You think that's cheating. It's not. Not even close.

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  • [quote]First part yes. Even if you used leaks it's still worlds first. Nothing about using leaks counters the fact that you're worlds first and you earned it. I now see where you're getting lost. You think that's cheating. It's not. Not even close.[/quote] I mean it is, going into a new raid for worlds first, you are not suppose to know the mechanics, but instead try to figure out the mechanics faster than the opposing teams. With the leaks that explain the mechanics, by using said leaks to gain an advantage against teams who don’t use said leaks, is considered cheating. It’s the same as having the answer key for an exam and using them while others are not

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  • See you're just trying to make apples to orange comparisons. Trying to tie using the leaks to cheating. Using the leaks is fair game to all teams. If a team chooses not to use it, that's on that team. They are ALL still on a level playing field. They are ALL still playing legit.

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  • [quote]See you're just trying to make apples to orange comparisons. Trying to tie using the leaks to cheating. Using the leaks is fair game to all teams. If a team chooses not to use it, that's on that team. They are ALL still on a level playing field. They are ALL still playing legit.[/quote] It’s the answer key, you’re not suppose to know how the raid works before hand. It’s considered cheating

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  • Like I said, you're trying to compare apples to oranges. Trying to compare leaks to an answer sheet and cheating. It's not. Everyone's still on level playing field whether they choose to use it or not. It's all fair game.

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  • [quote]Like I said, you're trying to compare apples to oranges. Trying to compare leaks to an answer sheet and cheating. It's not. Everyone's still on level playing field whether they choose to use it or not. It's all fair game.[/quote] It’s fact, going into a day 1 raid for worlds first, no one is suppose to have any knowledge of how the raid works, if you know information beforehand and use that information to obtain an advantage, whether everyone has access to the same information, is still cheating and not a legit way to win

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  • Again, no matter how many times you repeat yourself over and over and over again, it still doesn't make it true. It's not cheating. That's a FACT. You can cry and whine and try to delegitimize worlds first. But at the end of the day. They will have earned worlds first legitimately.

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  • [quote]Again, no matter how many times you repeat yourself over and over and over again, it still doesn't make it true. It's not cheating. That's a FACT. You can cry and whine and try to delegitimize worlds first. But at the end of the day. They will have earned worlds first legitimately.[/quote] Bro you are justifying cheating by using the “everyone has access to it” it’s still cheating, everyone has access to steroids, but it’s still a banned substance in sports, it’s still cheating, everyone has access to learning how to count cards for black jack, it’s still cheating, whether everyone has access or not, if you’re are not suppose to have the information then it is cheating

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  • [quote]Bro you are justifying cheating[/quote] That's where you're wrong. Everything after that is nonsense. I'm NOT justifying cheating. Using leaks ISNT cheating no matter how many times you say and *think* it is. That's really where this back n forth ends. It's not cheating. That's a FACT.

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