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originally posted in: IB Rift needs alot of work... alot
Edited by A_mo: 7/18/2022 9:35:24 PM
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None of the things you listed are such huge problems that they would justify your suggestion that someone shouldn't be designing games. They're really just things that can be easily adjusted if they need to be outside of maybe the spawn thing which is really more of a subjective matter. Not sure if you're raging at the respawn timer ticking down or what but rift seems fine for the most part. If anything it might have some of the same problems every other mode has sometimes. Is the possibility of someone using eager edge to do what you're saying people do really that huge of a problem?
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  • it is a problem because IB is supposed to be an endgame mode, that means skills is all, not terrible respawn times and awful spawn locations on maps with too little space, rift is a mess. Fare my initial comment about people and there game design is a bit much but if you don't have a real opinion other than rift of fine no explanation, not adresssing my points then leave my rant alone and address the actual point of the tread. The start is there because it marks my great disappointment in the rework and my disappointment i justified when its a endgame pvp mode they release in this sorry state

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  • As far as the respawns its basically a choice between that or people sitting just outside of the other teams base and spawn killing. The lower they make the timers the more likely that probably is to start happening. And then there's probably also a higher chance of teamwork or the objective not being as important which are pretty much the goals of the mode. IB probably isn't supposed to be focused on the exact same kinds of skills as Trials or even Comp when that was the endgame mode. Just seems to be set up to reward different kinds teamwork more than keeping people on respawn at their base. There's also the thing where there's only been 2 weeks of it and with a good portion of players it takes longer than that for them to really decide on the kind of approach they want to generally take. Plenty of people seem to be playing it from what I can tell though. And the good thing is that they're playing it to play PvP which sometimes some people aren't really doing.

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  • Edited by VERΛX: 7/19/2022 1:30:38 AM
    Do you remember when forsaken was new? They had a capture the flag like mode just like rift is, back then to but it didn't have any of rifts problems, my point is still that the maps are to small for the gameplay to funtion and as for spawn killing well its basically already happening. You didn't see the other guys post about dying and getting spawn killed by super after super. Rift is supposed to be a capture the flag and defend or attack the base type of game. But defense is almost impossible if the enemy team has a slither of coordination. It's not pvp ready let alone pvp endgame ready, and trials is one half of the PVP endgame IB is the other, just like raids is on PVE endgame and GMs is the other one. All four of those are endgame content and shouldn't be thrown out when they are in such a poor state. People play, yes but people played gambit and that is a prime example of things that havent workt in the past and needed change well IB it in that state now. The ting is if rift was jut casual pvp it would be fine even it it's packed with problems but its not casual its endgame, its the thing that brings out serious people, try hards and people who want a functioning game mode with actual focus on the objective.

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  • Forsaken had a capture the flag mode? I honestly don't remember that. I'm not sure but I don't think IB has to be rift forever. Some people do like rift so maybe eventually it can be under a different node and IB can be something else. I like rift just fine but I actually prefer control. And with IB control it eventually got to where the game was balancing out people playing the objective in favor of people that wanted to play the mode like it was wellspring. So when it comes to other options for IB if people are going to complain about things like being mercied in a mode where a big part of the point is to lockdown the zones there's a good chance there's going to be something added to make them more casual too.

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