This season had the bones of a great idea just very much poorly executed. The playlist generic matchmade activity of the season got old. I loved the idea of a narrative being told on an actual location where there is exploration and activities to find naturally like how the game was originally made out to be. Story beats are really good. Solar 3.0 and build crafting has been amazing. I love having separate builds hand crafted to my style in void, solar, stasis, and pvp. Very excited to see what arc brings. That's the nice things I have to say about it. Time for the bad grab a drink it's lengthy. The bad.... Everything else. Location is nothing more than a stripped down location we had taken from us in the first place. One singular public event for the most part other than the random bosses you had to find I kind of liked that but after the triumphs were done for it they served me no purpose. *we will revisit this in a moment* Absolutely abysmal loot system with this essence crap. Red frames being nearly impossible to find. Other than the story beats and us being forced to run the minimal activities to the ground, a not so great IB rework and an ok PvP map there was nothing and I mean nothing from this season that made me go wow. More please! The dungeon was a separate cost and now after paying for it and the season I think this is a model that is utter garbage. If the Dungeon had been in the season I would at least give it a passing grade in the C range. So I can shake my fist at this and cry about it or I can leave some feedback on what I would like to see built from this. 1. YES NEW PATROL ZONES AND I MEAN NEW!!!! There are several planets available to us that have so much potential to really show more of the world. It doesn't have to be a massive exploration zone like the Throne World but give us something new to discover and explore. Stop selling us crap we paid for already give us a NEW place to play. 2. The story beats. Keep this up. The final mission (SPOILER SKIP THIS PART NOW if you are behind) was really cool man. Fighting alongside Caital was badass even though it was short. Would love to see more NPC interactions and fights and truly make this a sci-fi epic. But coming from D1 Alpha testing to now. I can not at all complain about the story. But let's keep it up. 3. Scrap the dungeon pass crap. The dungeons need to be included in the season passes. The season this time around was so bare bones it's BS they stripped the dungeon off it to make yet another buck. Toothpaste out of the tube on this one I think but damn I really wish they didn't do this. 4. 1 new strike and 1 new PVP map. I am no dev but I think it is insane to me the lack of love PVP has had in the last like 1000 days before this new map dropped and I think other than WQ the last new strike was proving ground when it came to seasons? I feel like 1 of each would do wonders. 5. The loot system. Something has to give. Make the red frames 3 to unlock a pattern instead of 5. I have nearly maxed that stupid crown out twice grinding for red frames and have only ONE weapon pattern. Totally discouraging and just not fun. Remember those hidden bosses? Why not make those a way to boost our odds on weapons along with OTHER activities in the patrol zone so we aren't bashing our skulls in doing the same thing over and over and over again. Hell give us a master lost sector in the new patrol zone with increased odds. Something. Anything other than run x event 500 times. Crank he difficulty if you must make it a challenge. Monotony is so much worse than something being difficult. 6. Hang in there almost done. Respect our time. A current containment gives like what? 9 Essence yet it costs like 27 to focus a weapon? So we get maybe one additional roll per hour and pray it is a red box. Never is. I don't think I have ever had one focused engram drop a red frame. Ever. Hours of containments days even for nothing. It's not rewarding. Make. The. Game. Rewarding. 7. Gambit either cut it out the game or add maps and modes to it. The way it is now sucks. I for one could see it go and I wouldn't feel bad at all but whatever. That mode is more stale than 6 month old bagel. TLDR Version - New patrol areas, good story beats, better ways to acquire desirable loot, new strike, new pvp map, gambit cut out or new maps, and bring back the dungeons in to the season. That would make for a really strong seasonal model. If that isn't possible then I'm good with just doing 6 month or yearly releases for this game. Because this season is immensely disappointing in so many ways.

The whole RNG drop system is broken. The Evidence Board quests require crafting of certain weapons e.g. Tarnation. I haven't got 1 tarnation let alone 5 red border, so that quest is broken for me. No quests should be dependant on RNG under any circumstances, as they quickly cause frustration and just piss players off. Just as bad is the total lack of exotic drop dupe protection. I just love getting a pity exotic that's actually a worse version of what I'm wearing at the time.

This game has always been largely unrewarding. You just have to play long enough to get there. When you start out everything is great because you’re building your arsenal so everything helps. Once you’ve played for a couple seasons and years though, and you start to drill down to needing more specific things, you find out how painful and unrewarding the game actually is. That’s why I laugh when they or anyone else call Destiny a hobby. Areal hobby gets MORE rewarding over time. Destiny gets less.

I couldn’t agree more. I used to love this game. I wish I still did because I had so much fun back in the day. It all stopped once they started doing everything in their power to milk playtime as much as possible. Kinda funny how it’s blown up in their face. Not in terms of money or anything because eververse is an absolute cash cow but in terms of loyal players. It’s turning into vanilla D2 all over again. Anytime I go on , the multiple pages of friends that used to be more dedicated than I was just aren’t there anymore. Bungie has an incredibly low retention rate now for new players. If they’d just reward us for our time we’d keep playing. If I didn’t have to play for 2 weeks straight just to unlock the ability to focus red border weapons I’d still be leveling up my Austringer and Beloved to this day. Once I got them though I was burnt out from the grind. I was even burnt out beforehand. After the third week I only got on to get my focused red border then I immediately got off. I did the seasonal question for a couple weeks then couldn’t keep going anymore. It’s a shame to see Bungie has gone down this path but what’s done is done until they decide otherwise

Hi, here at Bungie we hear and listen to our player bases concerns but ultimately don't give a flying "F"

Every week my 2 alts just get weapons from pinnacles, making zero progress. It's a real good feeling

You want a loot system to be the same as a game like BL A primarily offline game Loot doesn't mean much if you get all the good stuff immediately

You call that great story😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

The book Goodnight Moon has a deeper story, but you aren't wrong about the punitive RNG.

Whoa there. You're about to draw the ire of players who've been successfully duped to think that spending countless hours to grind for a gun that may or may not have gotten nerfed in the time it took to earn it is indication of skill and prestige. RNG = Skill round these here parts

Enjoy the story or on joy the grind GiT GuD

The story is good but like. I agree. The grind for the stupid red boxes. I’ve unlocked one opulent weapon, the beloved…. Guess which has been THE ONLY DAMN RED BOX WEAPON THAT IS DROPPING……..

If you reset vangaurd it can drop with 1 more perk. I now have 3 perks in both colums on my bows because of my resets.