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I get what you saying, but i disagree asking for solo strikes. There is no need for them. You can finish most bounties in a strike or 2. And even if you play with speeders, you can still take your time/play how you like, until they pull you ahead. If it annoys you, just dont revive them if they die. And leave the group and load back into strikes to get a different group. Also, I get some like to take their time going through strikes, but it comes a point in time when you have to advance the strike. Unless you deviate from doing the strike itself (ex: LOS and staying back to kill the fallen/cabal that are fighting at the beginning), you eventually run out of enemies to kill and must advance the strike. When people ask for solo strikes, it sounds like they just want to load in to do bounties and not really do the strike. That's selfish as hell and not a legit reason for solo strikes.
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  • I don't think people doing bounties want to compete with those who want to try a new loadout like its a adds killing race. And speeders probably don't need teammate, if they speed thru the strike they should be skilled enough to solo the strike.

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  • Bounties aren't so strenuous people need a solo strike to do them lol. The majority of bounties can be done in 1 strike. The ones that cant, can be done in 2.

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  • Let me see if i get this straight: asking for a feature that would benefit the majority is selfish, and opposing the change due to theoretical increase in loading times that would at best affect only a few, isn't?

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  • Edited by whateverman7: 6/29/2022 4:38:00 PM
    You have the groups reversed. The majority don't want solo strikes. It's the minority that want it so they can do bounties. So adding them would benefit the few, while effecting the majority.

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  • I mean, look at the rating of OG post vs. your comment. Plus, i have done a small poll here, on these forums, a while ago, and majority actually voted for the solo option. I follow the subject whenever it gets brought up, and even speedrunners really wouldn't mind running strikes solo. It's safe to say that solo strikes would be quite popular.

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  • These forums don't represent the majority of players. I know we'd like to think they do, but they don't. Also, people tend to only reply to the things that interest them. So while you might think its a good amount of people, you're not taking into account the rest that's ignoring said topic. In this case, the majority don't care for solo strikes, it's the minority that do.

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  • [quote]These forums don't represent the majority of players. I know we'd like to think they do, but they don't.[/quote] See, that's the thing here. Amount of players who are active here isn't a major part, correct, but the range of different opinions on any given subject is quite wide, which makes the sample quite representative. That's how statistics work in the first place. [quote]Also, people tend to only reply to the things that interest them.[/quote] Wrong. I did have offered all three choices, positive, negative and neutral. Everyone were encouraged to share their PoV, regardless. The majority of votes still went to the positive option (yes to solo strikes). [quote]In this case, the majority don't care for solo strikes, it's the minority that do.[/quote] Not caring is one thing, to be against is another. Those who don't care, they are fine either way, solo option or not. They are neutral. Those who are against are, again, a very, very small portion of the playerbase. Much smaller than those who want solo [u]option[/u] for strikes. I'd share the poll, but it got drowned by now.

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  • Edited by whateverman7: 6/30/2022 2:12:00 PM
    I know how statistics work. Your poll still doesn't represent what the active people on the board think. Even with 3 options, if people don't care about the topic, they not gonna go in that thread, that's what I'm saying. Most threads are responded to mainly by people that agree with whatever the topic is. The minority that respond in a thread are either against the topic and/or just trying to be -blam!-. Which means the responses in that thread that are for whatever it is still aren't a good representation. I would think a poll for solo strikes would favor them because most that respond to it are going to be for them.

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  • Ok, feel free to make your own poll. If i may have influenced people to vote for solo option, i don't know, maybe with a title or if the question was a bit suggestive, you do the opposite: formulate the poll against solo strikes. Let's see if those who are against will be in majority this time.

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  • I'm not doing a poll lol. I'm here just stating my opinions on the topic. In this case, I disagree, which is cool. You agree with it, that's cool too.

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  • You have to be trolling cause dear God you can’t be that Fkn dense. Like seriously 🤦🏽

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  • 'You have to be trolling' must be a go to answer or something when someone disagrees lol. No, I'm not trolling, just don't agree that we need solo strike options.

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  • [quote]'You have to be trolling' must be a go to answer or something when someone disagrees lol. [/quote] It is.

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  • Let me get this straight, it is selfish to want a strike to yourself so your limited time to game isn’t wasted by blueberries for whatever reason they’re wasting your time? Yikes.

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  • That's not what was said at all, but nice try lol.

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  • Also a great reason to have a solo option, if people just want to do bounties only then they aren't messing up another players strike. (Not that every strike can't be soloed anyway but hey ho) It's also no less selfish than a charger that just want's to get the weekly pinnacle done, depends on your point of view. I do most of my strikes solo because I have that capability, then if I have to take a call or deal with RL stuff I am not tripping anyone else up.

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  • Edited by whateverman7: 6/29/2022 12:26:16 AM
    But you can complete most bounties in a strike, 2 at the most. I'm not a charger, I take my time, and play how I want no matter whom I'm matched with. That's good for, but i and most others don't. And I just don't think we need to split up the player base further, increasing mm times just cause people want a strike to themselves for bounties.

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  • Some bounties can take a bit of effort to get done and if you have a stack of bright dust ones, some pausing and weapon/class swapping may be needed. Some fast players also do a good job of killing which means less or nothing to target for a bounty so not a given that one or two strikes would do it. Getting pulled fwd randomly could even mean some bounties take longer (You just primed a bunch of mobs for an ignition and get advanced before triggering - back to square 1) just a broad brush example. If as you suspect, not many people do this then it's not really going to thin the mm pool and even when soloing the mm gives up after about 60 sec and launches so it's not like PvP where you can be hanging for ages to launch.

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  • Edited by whateverman7: 6/29/2022 2:41:11 PM
    I said most, not all. If you're grabbing that many bounties, it would seem you plan on doing multiple strikes, so speed runners shouldn't be an issue. Yes, getting pulled ahead sucks. But you can still get most bounties done. No matter the number that does it, it would effect the majority. I'm not against changes, I just think bungie should make them with the majority in mind. Solo strikes aren't needed for the majority.

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  • Bungie has a habit of disregarding the majority though ;)

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  • This is true lol.

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  • Why should you care what people do in solo activities? You're not there to be effected.

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  • True, but people doing solo strikes would increase mm times for reg strikes, which would effect me.

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  • Then make people load if nobody joins after an amount of time, leaving it open until halfway through for others to join or give us recruiting chat instead of lfg on external app

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  • Allowing people to join goes against what is being suggested about solo strikes. I do agree there needs to be an lfg type thing in game.

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