I think that's a huge part of my problem. Been crutching on Chappy for far too long (yes, I'm that filthy shotgun ape guy lol)

[quote]I think that's a huge part of my problem. Been crutching on Chappy for far too long (yes, I'm that filthy shotgun ape guy lol)[/quote] Chappy does equal the range of the best fusions to this day, but you have to land a pretty long range headshot. I'd say it's about the only shotty capable of a hard counter, but you have zero room for error. What I dont want to see is a great side arm or sub player. TLW is also a strong counter. It seems to me from being on the opposite end that strong primary play, insane snipes, and short range kinetics like sidearms and subs are the rock to the scissors. Just my take on it. All a fusion is to me is a shotgun that gains range over the typical shotty at the expense of not having an instant shot (charge time). The only time imo fusions were truly busted was when the fast firing ones hit too hard and too far. So like mega vanilla D1 before like the first few patches ever in Destiny, and to some degree last season with guns like the craftable Likely Suspect. Those were truly outliers to me. Fusions like Main Ingredient (don't use it myself) have always done what they do now. My man thing is sidearms are the direct counter. TLW is a sidearm in my mind. You can break that circle of influence to the inside, make them miss or not fully connect, land heads and they're done. Look at the correlation to sidearm use and complaints about fusions. You rarely see them...I think it's just thay ppl haven't caught on and always go to YT steamers "get this shotty/hc" rn guns. Another thing I'm finding is use the 2 guns you're absolutely your best with. If that's a sidearm and a shotty, do it.