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My computer shut off when I was typing my last post but the main thing I wanted to say is that freelance is so much better to play solo than when it was teams only. I think the matchmaking in freelance combined with the way Gambit is able to do certain things that Crucible has more trouble doing has made the matches feel much more competitive and fair. Oh, I can also see why people don't like the prevalence of heavy ammo but it actually kind of works because it achieves that thing they're always trying to do with making it so lower skilled players have a chance at the same time higher skilled players can still function at their level. So I don't really mind it all that much. I can see how people might not like it though.
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  • [quote]My computer shut off when I was typing my last post but the main thing I wanted to say is that freelance is so much better to play solo than when it was teams only. I think the matchmaking in freelance combined with the way Gambit is able to do certain things that Crucible has more trouble doing has made the matches feel much more competitive and fair. Oh, I can also see why people don't like the prevalence of heavy ammo but it actually kind of works because it achieves that thing they're always trying to do with making it so lower skilled players have a chance at the same time higher skilled players can still function at their level. So I don't really mind it all that much. I can see how people might not like it though.[/quote] Freelance sucks with the population being so low though. Takes forever to find a match because the already tiny population was split.

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  • It didn't take me long at all to find matches today. The heavy did eventually start to get a bit annoying though.

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  • [quote]It didn't take me long at all to find matches today. The heavy did eventually start to get a bit annoying though.[/quote] It takes me nearly 10 minutes to get into a match sometimes. It’s likely faster this week since there’s been a small bump in the gambit population. Possibly because of labs I guess. It’s currently more than double the normal amount in there.

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  • Because double infamy, nobody cares about the labs

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  • Are you sure Crossplay isn't off ?

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  • Edited by Bore: 4/29/2022 4:50:46 AM
    [quote]Are you sure Crossplay isn't off ?[/quote] Wait for a typical week with normal population numbers, grab a friend or two and go into gambit. Your matchmaking times will be between 5-10 minutes per new lobby consistently.

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  • 10 minutes? That sounds like there might be something else going on. It didn't take me any longer than normal to get into matches today and yesterday. I hadn't played it that much since earlier in the season until I played this week though.

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  • Edited by Bore: 4/29/2022 4:25:10 AM
    [quote]10 minutes? That sounds like there might be something else going on. It didn't take me any longer than normal to get into matches today and yesterday. I hadn't played it that much since earlier in the season until I played this week though.[/quote] When the population for gambit averaging around 3%-4% of the total game, getting nearly 10 minute queue times isn’t abnormal. I doubt the population is split 50/50 between the pools as well. It’s only different this week because of the increased population.

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  • Yeah, I didn't think about the fact that its about 3-4% of the total player population and I handn't played much outside of the pinnacles for most of the season. But those matches were perfectly fine as far as I remember. You seem to be saying that you think freelance is probably not a good idea. I honestly haven't played it enough to really be able to tell. I do know that at the beginning of the season I felt like I noticed a definite difference as far as the matches feeling more fair when playing solo.

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  • Edited by Bore: 4/29/2022 4:43:47 AM
    [quote]Yeah, I didn't think about the fact that its about 3-4% of the total player population and I handn't played much outside of the pinnacles for most of the season. But those matches were perfectly fine as far as I remember. You seem to be saying that you think freelance is probably not a good idea. I honestly haven't played it enough to really be able to tell. I do know that at the beginning of the season I felt like I noticed a definite difference as far as the matches feeling more fair when playing solo.[/quote] Freelance works with gamemodes that have a higher population. Iron banner for example is typically the most played activity when it is available. Matches are found quickly as a result. Gambit is a matchmade activity with a concurrent population lower than raids. It had pretty poor matchmaking times before this showed and it’s only gotten worse with the introduction of freelance.

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  • Are you on PC or something because I've just never really heard anyone talking about having long matchmaking times. I believe you its just that its not a problem I've seen come up as far as I can remember on here or Reddit or really anywhere. I would think that if it was low enough to affect things the game would be jittery or laggy or something but I haven't noticed anything like that at all this season.

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  • Edited by Bore: 4/29/2022 5:25:31 AM
    [quote]Are you on PC or something because I've just never really heard anyone talking about having long matchmaking times. I believe you its just that its not a problem I've seen come up as far as I can remember on here or Reddit or really anywhere. I would think that if it was low enough to affect things the game would be jittery or laggy or something but I haven't noticed anything like that at all this season.[/quote] Console. Go in next week or whenever the population is back to normal and compare the times to crucible or strikes. You’ll notice the difference. Long queue times aren’t new to gambit, but splitting the population hasn’t helped. It got better with cross play and now it feels as bad or even worse than before. Edit: I should clarify I’m talking about the regular gambit pool, not freelance. Most often with a team of 2-3 people.

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  • Well, even though I really like freelance options in PvP modes (I pretty much consider Gambit to be PvP) it wouldn't make that big of a difference to me if it was recombined if that's what the mode really needed. As long as it didn't turn into something where it was just like the game will now always put solos against teams as much as it possibly can. I really think freelance modes are good for the game with where its at currently though. Of course it might not be as fun for people playing on teams but if your in a premade team you should generally be playing against another premade team if possible. PvP stuff shouldn't be a contest of what premade team can beat solos the hardest. Just really don't think that helps keep people playing in the long run.

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  • [quote]Well, even though I really like freelance options in PvP modes (I pretty much consider Gambit to be PvP) it wouldn't make that big of a difference to me if it was recombined if that's what the mode really needed. As long as it didn't turn into something where it was just like the game will now always put solos against teams as much as it possibly can. I really think freelance modes are good for the game with where its at currently though. Of course it might not be as fun for people playing on teams but if your in a premade team you should generally be playing against another premade team if possible. PvP stuff shouldn't be a contest of what premade team can beat solos the hardest. Just really don't think that helps keep people playing in the long run.[/quote] I get why people like freelance. I don’t care for it too much, so I don’t use it. Often times I can’t since I mostly play this game with friends. If I don’t use it, it doesn’t affect me. At least it shouldn’t. Ultimately freelance isn’t the problem, it’s gambit. Freelance has zero effect on iron banner matchmaking times because people play iron banner. We’re in a season with a large focus on gambit getting updated and people are still barely playing it.

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  • [quote]My computer shut off when I was typing my last post but the main thing I wanted to say is that freelance is so much better to play solo than when it was teams only. I think the matchmaking in freelance combined with the way Gambit is able to do certain things that Crucible has more trouble doing has made the matches feel much more competitive and fair. Oh, I can also see why people don't like the prevalence of heavy ammo but it actually kind of works because it achieves that thing they're always trying to do with making it so lower skilled players have a chance at the same time higher skilled players can still function at their level. So I don't really mind it all that much. I can see how people might not like it though.[/quote] Bump

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