Same here. Crucible Meta = Hunter (still), Stompees (still), Hand Cannons (Still), Shotguns (Still) - It's fixed! * Lobby balance is a joke * Enormously forgiving 140 Hand Cannons easily head-shotting through flinch from any weapon * Even more forgiving Lorentz Driver one-shotting everything and dragging you across the map * Slide shotguns just as effective as they were before (no-in game difference in trials numbers) * Tracking grenades killing multiple guardians at a time and regenerating in under 30 seconds * 4 to 6 stack teams/clans going up against 6 blueberries * Crucible overrun with Hunters (Guardian with training wheels) * Instant Dodge - regens faster than anything else in the game * Fastest regenerating supers * Invisible one-shot against any opponent Here is a link to Coolguys view on Hunters and Stompees https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA5gz_SLvgs Great fun Bungie! :p