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12/8/2021 12:51:00 AM
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Well it has become a part of politics, imagine if there was a group of people saying you have a mental disorder then there is one side that says they are will say you have no issues at all and are just misunderstood.
Which side would you vote for? Thats why this stuff becomes political.
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Edited by BarrettDylan: 12/8/2021 1:08:40 AMIt feels to me at that point the side denying it just shouldn’t be listened to. They’re being disingenuous to a high degree, and that conduct shouldn’t be entertained in a political environment. If it’s been proven scientifically, with credible studies and evidence, then they have no ground to stand on denying it’s existence. When it comes to things like restroom usage, athletic competitions, or other nuance’s pertaining to those of transgender or gender dysphoric status, I could see there being a discussion on how to approach that.
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There is no argument it’s simply gender Dysphoria with no outside factors it solves itself, it only becomes a issue when someone starts compounding the issue by affirming the person is what they believe they are.
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So I guess that’s where we differ lol There’s a lot of science to back up the fact that some people are born with a brain that’s more wired towards the gender they aren’t biologically. Physical amounts of white matter or grey matter differing, not fully mental. Leading to why people get a gender change. It’s simply not your decision to determine whether it’s okay for someone to make that decision, and debating their personal choice and whether it’s okay is hateful at it’s core. That is what you’d be doing. I’m not getting into this any further on a video game forum website. I’ve made my piece
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Doesn’t matter what you want to be, i want to be taller doesn’t mean anything. Literally what you described is Gender Dysphoria its a mental condition how you described it makes it worse as Gender Dysphoria is one of the few mental illnesses that goes away if it isn’t affirmed.
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Are you aware of what white and grey matter are? Educate yourself on that and come back, because it isn’t “mental”. They’re types of physical brain tissue that typically are determined by gender (in terms of amount of each), it doesn’t go away if you don’t get “affirmation”.
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Go take a biology class and come back please.
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Welp, since you’ve not posed a counter point at all to what I just said I’ll call this case closed. Keep on letting other’s bodily choices live rent free in your head. Can’t imagine how feeling discomfort over another’s life choice is an enjoyable existence, but you do you friend 🥂
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And its people like you that make this a harder conversation than necessary. I did provide my point I didn’t even consider what you said to be a point i needed to counter. Gender Dysphoria is a known mental disorder and you saying “well scientist say that some people are born with more feminine minds in male bodys” quite literally is gender Dysphoria. Why the hell do you support something that only hurts someone at the end? You dont wonder why people who are post transitional surgery commit suicide more often? Even the doctor who created the technique used for the surgery has stopped doing it as he saw it does more damage to the patient in the long run. I care because i can actually care about people, if someone is hurting themselves unknowingly then shouldn’t you do something? Seems obvious.
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The amount of mental gymnastics and ignorance of science here is impressive.
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Such as? What mental gymnastics? This is why i dont like arguing with people about this. Its a fundamental difference where one side ignores the basics of Biology and psychology in favor for saying its a concept beyond just that. Just dont end up like the person i argued with who told me we are evolving past humanity and -blam!-/gender are beyond us as if we have the technology that can change chromosomes.
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Edited by BarrettDylan: 12/8/2021 10:19:24 PMI have no clue what you’re on about now but you’ve been heavily straw manning me for a while. I never said any of that, and here you are denying a biological situation I brought up while saying I’m doing the same. If you want to keep using mental gymnastics to justify thrusting yourself into random other peoples lives (like a creep) go ahead. No one will like you for it, and rightfully will find you bigoted. It. Isn’t. Your. Decision. Nor does it hurt you. So stop being a hateful person and let others live their lives. You my friend, are what we call a transphobe. Have fun with the label, as you continue to expose yourself as one. Edit: I genuinely hope you understand that outing yourself as such on a forum site directly monitored by Bungie themselves (who directly support trans rights) is not intelligent in the slightest.
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Why would i care what bungie thinks, its not monitored by bungie lmao, do you think ill get banned in game or something? It’s monitored by Ninjas which are NOT Bungie employees. All you can do is insult me, which is against the ToS. How is it being hateful when im literally watching for someones mental health, if you help someone now despite it currently not being with their wishes it may save their life in the future. How is that hateful, whats ignorant is not helping these people and just telling them what they are doing is fine. Imagine waking up one day and realizing what you did to yourself, many do that and take their own lives. Is that okay? Obviously not, do not call me a creep as im not doing anything creepy thats just straight up slander. Clearly i can display my better care for others while you sit there placing labels on people you dont even know.
