Blues don't count as loot once you're past 1270, they're just glimmer Purple wise man you must be kidding lol Crucible offers 5 guns total (not counting acendancy) and one armor set which takes 5 weeks of bounties to collect all of. And this armor set is exactly the same for gambit and vanguard. So that's 1 armor set across ALL of the playlists and each one would take 5 weeks of bounties to grind (for a total of 5 weeks...I'm not adding them together) Of those 5 crucible guns, maybe 2 are remotely usable in end game content and I'm being generous with sorrows verse. Vanguard (not including nightfalls) also only offers 5 guns (if you include truthteller which idk if you can even get except as a random nightfall drop) that's 2 more meta guns with truthteller included. Gambit also offers 5 guns, there are great options here with bottom dollar and servant leader, borrowed time and maybe even trinary system. But you'll be lucky if you get ANY of those guns even for winning a match. I've gone many games without 1 good drop. And remember the same armor set with a base recolor is shared across all 3. For a grand total of 1 armor set and 15 guns for the entire core Playlist. Pissing loot where exactly?

If we’re only talking playlists which I specifically said don’t drop it much, yeah it pisses loot

Well the majority of my post was focusing on the playlists because they make up the majority of the game But where else would you say there is tons of loot?

You can farm raids, unbrals drop like max and are easily focused, gunsmith, legendaries do drop pretty frequently. Keep in mind I am comparing from what the game used to be not some other franchise. It’s rare I’ll go a week without getting enough drops of something to get a 4/5 or better but man d1 I spent weeks to months chasing god rolls at times and never got them

Compare destiny to something like wow. I realize it's not a great comparison since wow is a pure MMO with a shitty combat system and destiny is like 1/3 mmo, 1/3 rpg and 1/3 fps. But humor me. Wow has a metric -blam!- ton of loot, and much of that is viable end game loot, there's not just like 6 battle axes to choose from that are viable for later content, there's tons of weapons for max level characters. To the point that almost no 2 people are running the same loadout. We need to move closer to that, loot wise. We don't need thousands of weapons, but like 25 end game viable options in each category would give people endless build options

We are moving closer to that. Bungie flat out told us it isn’t an easy process making new stuff and that they had hired more people. Immediately following we started getting more gear than most players can get 4/5 or better rolls on in a season. You already can use a lot of gear in end game. I’d say the issue is more the delta in players play time. Hard core players have just about every dps option in the game including odd ball ones so they get to pick from a list of great stuff while a lot of the playerbase doesn’t have everything to choose from.