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10/16/2021 4:38:57 PM
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I don't care if anyone agrees or disagrees with my opinion, but anyone saying...
[b]"If you don't like it then don't play it"[/b] is not an argument, it's a cowardly way out of one and is saying you don't want to look for a solution or anything helpful for the community at all. It is used as an excuse for how Un-creative this company has been for a while now for the millions they literally have made off the player base creating these events, and other activities.
[spoiler]In spite of how much anyone likes this game, and there is nothing wrong with that. If Bungie is not going to put in the effort into the content they create like these events while asking for feedback at the same time?
Then they need to stop lying to the player base face saying "we want feedback to improve the content in this game". It's distasteful and that says a lot about the company in spite of how much anyone likes the game or company. Call it whatever you want, I don't care. The truth is, this company should be doing a hell of a lot better work for the amount of money given to them.[/spoiler]
Since Activision left this game has gone backward when it comes to being creative, having that inspiration to do right by the player base, and the grind time has majorly increased, but Eververse has majorly moved forward. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the millions Bungie makes from Eververse was to help fund these events?
(creating actually new content, ) not just reusing content like lost sectors and old loot.
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Edited by RonnieOP: 10/16/2021 8:02:19 PMIf you dont like it don’t play it. The fact that you have an issue with that statement than you have no argument for anything. If your going to keep playing not matter what I don’t blame companies for pissing you off and taking advantage of you and your money. If you dont like something don’t do it. If you keep doing things you don’t like than you are just mentally weak. There was this bar in my area that was -blam!-. They ended up having to completely re evaluate their business because people stopped going. Read that again. They changed because people stopped going. They wouldn’t have changed if people kept going and spending money with them. Speak with your wallet. Nothing else works. If you keep screaming that it’s not good but you keep playing and keep buying the content than you are the bigger issue. Not bungie or any company for that matter. This is a video game. It’s about as unimportant in life as something can get. Nothing is forcing you to play but yourself. And it’s incredibly hypocritical for you to say anyone else is cowardly if you keep playing. You are the coward in that situation.
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Edited by TheShadow: 10/16/2021 8:13:22 PM[quote]If you dont like it don’t play it. The fact that you have an issue with that statement than you have no argument for anything. If your going to keep playing not matter what I don’t blame companies for pissing you off and taking advantage of you and your money.[/quote] OM, there are so many holes in this it's not funny at all. Another one that created their own little story. I think you better learn the difference between not liking a statement, and players trying to push others off the forum as many have because they don't like the opinion about whatever. Furthermore, the rest of what you said was assuming something (you literally don't know about anyone.) Just saying, speak for yourself because you will never ever speak for me. I didn't even bother to read the rest.
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[quote][quote]If you dont like it don’t play it. The fact that you have an issue with that statement than you have no argument for anything. If your going to keep playing not matter what I don’t blame companies for pissing you off and taking advantage of you and your money.[/quote] OM, there are so many holes in this it's not funny at all. Another one that created their own little story. I think you better learn the difference between not liking a statement, and players trying to push others off the forum as many have because they don't like the opinion about whatever. Furthermore, the rest of what you said was assuming something (you literally don't know about anyone.) Just saying, speak for yourself because you will never ever speak for me. I didn't even bother to read the rest.[/quote] Once again. Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything. You post on this forum because you elect to. Just like people play the game because they elect to. You made a dumb statement. I replied. That’s how forums work. The fact that you have a problem with that means that your the one that’s upset about others opinions. And I wasnt speaking for you I was speaking to you. Big difference. And funny enough. You didn’t have any sort of answer for anything I’ve said. You didn’t address anything. In fact what you did say literally meant nothing to the subject at hand. That’s a pretty cowardly thing to do. I didn’t create any stories. You just don’t seem to understand basic economics. Again. Don’t like it don’t play it is a very rational statement. Unless you think “don’t like it keep playing” is a rational statement.
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[quote]Once again. Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything[/quote] And once again, you failed to see what was actually being said and ended up repeating yourself. Why bother to answer anything you said when your attention was loud and clear that had absolutely nothing to do with my post 🤷♂️
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Literally everything I said had to do with your post. You just refuse to acknowledge any of it. Instead your making cowardly excuses not to support your opinion. You were willing to write a short story to say your opinion but the second you got any sort of push back you run away.
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[quote] You were willing to write a short story to say your opinion but the second you got any sort of push back you run away. [/quote] Theshadow in a nutshell lol If you keep disagreeing you must be "a troll"
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😂🤦♂️ Failed again. You keep thinking you know me and it is hilarious. News flash. Just because you didn't get the answers "you wanted" doesn't mean I was backing away. But please do keep the entertainment going. I'm enjoying laughing at you 👍
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Edited by Umadfalala: 10/16/2021 8:01:21 PMPeople have this cultivated sheep mentality whereby they think that as consumers it is their job to simply sit by and accept whatever garbage they are given. It's honestly poor people mentality and it severally limits a lot of people because they do this in a lot of aspects in their life. This game EXISTS to attract and retain customers. If they are failing to provide you with an enjoyable experience then it is on YOU as a consumer to say something about the poor service/experience you are receiving. Not to the point of being a Karen and assuming everything is owed to you, but stuff like this... on the FEEDBACK FORUMS, yea, this is the time and place for that. It does NO COMPANY any good to just have customers silently walking away. It may seem simple and easy to the customer to rationalize why they are walking away, but some companies have so much insulation and bureaucratic nonsense they are, in fact, far removed from the effects of their idiotic choices. That's the reason a lot of idiotic choices make it through the pipeline. Customer outrage on feedback mediums is a good means of tracking which choices are having an adverse effect on the company. No company takes every complaint serious (nor should they) but for every complaint you receive there's multiples of customers or potential customers who simply walk away and can't be bothered. If the metrics start to dip and complaints for a single painpoint conti ue to rack up then it becomes something that needs to be dealt with and addressed. And you, as a consumer, if you actually like the company should be vocalizing your displeasure. Your duty isn't to simply endlessly throw money at them despite endless pathetic performance. Only the government gets that joy because they can force you to pay taxes. If a company keeps issuing garbage service/products and refuses to take any feedback or change their ways then there are hundreds of other products and services put there who would be more than willing to happily take your money.
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[quote] People have this cultivated sheep mentality whereby they think that as consumers it is their job to simply sit by and accept whatever garbage they are given. [/quote] No one genuinely thinks this. The "stop playing" argument is reflective of "why do you keep giving bungie business if they continuously produce a product you have issue with" Why would bungie think what they're doing is wrong, if the same people who constantly complain keep spending money and time? Actions speak louder than words
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[quote]This game EXISTS to attract and retain customers. If they are failing to provide you with an enjoyable experience then it is on YOU as a consumer to say something about the poor service/experience you are receiving. Not to the point of being a Karen and assuming everything is owed to you, but stuff like this... on the FEEDBACK FORUMS, yea, this is the time and place for that.[/quote] Many fail to see this 👍
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Edited by Ferus Lux: 10/16/2021 11:25:49 PMMany also fail to realize that just because someone is criticizing or giving "negative" feedback that doesnt mean they have no intention other than to disrupt or hate something they like. They can't fathom that maybe, just maybe, they enjoy playing the game and want it to be better. You know, the point of feedback.
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Agreed.
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Edited by WoofinAintEazy: 10/16/2021 5:43:46 PM[quote] [b]"If you don't like it then don't play it"[/b] is not an argument, it's a cowardly way out of one and is saying you don't want to look for a solution or anything helpful for the community at all.[/quote] No, this applies here lol. It’s a video game, a CHOICE we have to play or not to play. We can’t expect them to change every element of the game to fit our needs, and you can’t expect a solution for things that you personally find as an issue. It’s all perspective on the player. Just like with anything and everything in life, some people like it and some people don’t. I dislike certain foods, I choose not to eat them. I don’t go to the chef and tell him to change the way he cooks to fit my needs. I can make a suggestion, and the chef can choose to act upon it, but it’s not a demand. Also, they have literally made direct changes to the game based off our feedback, but you constantly ignore that for some reason. All feedback won’t be treated the same. There needs to be expectations. But to dismiss they don’t make changes based off our feedback is just further proving that YOU don’t look at both perspectives. I mean, judging by every single one of your posts, it’s pretty obvious lol.
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Edited by TheShadow: 10/16/2021 6:30:47 PM[quote]No, this applies here lol. It’s a video game, a CHOICE we have to play or not to play. [b](We can’t expect them to change every element of the game to fit our needs,)[/b] and you can’t expect a solution for things that you personally find as an issue. [/quote] This amazes me about players like yourself. You added something that was never even there. Making up your own little story as if that was ever a thing. Sorry, that is just dumb. Not you, what you said was. These forums are supposed to be for feedback, giving suggestions to add things or improve things. Telling players to just stop playing is the dumbest thing anyone could ever say knowing what these forums are supposed to be for. It literally does nothing for the player base or the game. It's just a dumb argument, period. Furthermore, just because someone may not like something about the game, doesn't mean they don't like anything about the game, or that they are "demanding anything". Another dumb comment. (Communication) has been the biggest issue with this company. For example, it took Bungie [b](2 years just to give a legit statement about factions.)[/b] That's absurd. Pretending to want feedback while ignoring what feedback was given to them as they literally did with factions is wrong no matter how you try to justify it. It's supposed to be a 2-way street that I think it's about time someone needs to learn that like years ago as some companies actually have and are willing to work more with their player base than Bungie ever has. Sorry, Bungie isn't special. Also, I don't care that it's their game. What I care about is the lack of communication and the lying to the player base face, and I have every right in spite of what you say to express my opinion as I see fit 😉 [quote]I dislike certain foods, I choose not to eat them. I don’t go to the chef and tell him to change the way he cooks to fit my needs. I can make a suggestion, and the chef can choose to act upon it, but it’s not a demand.[/quote] Explaining the obvious didn't help your cause, but I like how you tried to push the word "demand". 😂🤦♂️
