[quote]no game, game company, or devs need to respect your time.[/quote] That statement by itself could not be any more wrong. If businesses do not respect the consumer's time, the consumer will not do business with them. This is true for any business. And believe it or not, businesses do react to consumer response. That has been the basis of our economy for around two hundred years, even more now than ever. If they see me as the minority and they can get away with not putting work into the game to respect the playerbase, then sure, they will likely ignore my requests... I keep saying "my requests," as if this isn't already something a bunch of other people have requested. But that is their prerogative, and I don't have access to their database to see whether or not this post will actually make any change. This is why I "waste my time" talking about this issue, because while it is an issue, I cannot definitively know if my work will pay off. Though all things considered, I think it has already paid off. It's made quite a lot of people think about how they are being used, and that will inspire more change. [quote]those who do not have the time to invest have no need for max power. the system isn't perfect by any means, but there is little room left of dumbing it down before it's pointless to play by anyone, casual or hardcore.[/quote] If you truly believe the game would have no merit to stand on if it didn't have a painfully forced power value, then perhaps the game has bigger issues than even I am pointing out. The point is the system as it currently stands is useless. It causes more harm than good. It complicates things, not where the complication is actually a fun mechanic, but just to complicate things. It makes things tedious, and again, not in a good way. And on top of all this, they use it just to artificially increase the grind. I'm not saying they couldn't fix it. They could very well put a soft cap on what activities require what power level, and additionally, put a soft cap on where the power level stops influencing your damage and other features while maintaining the number and displaying it more as a badge of honor. I'm saying that this "feature" depends on excluding players from actual gameplay benefits unless they put in extra time, which is already a feature that is implemented much better in the RNG drops.

I stand by my comment even more after your reply.

Then you have come into this discussion with your mind already made, and no amount of reasoning or real-world examples will convince you otherwise. If you do not base your beliefs upon reality, I cannot get through to you by using examples from reality. Stubbornness or conviction can be explained by refutation. You have provided none, which automatically signifies your say in this matter is not dictated by any measurable factual evidence, but only your sheer emotional conviction. At least you admitted this all through one single post instead of wasting both of our time and anyone reading by dragging it out across many posts.

Why are you so senselessly long winded? Bungie provides a piece of entertainment. It's meant to satisfy a broad range of people. They have nothing to do with your time spent. It's your choice to play. Clearly you don't play enough to get what others do and expect to have the same things they do. It doesn't work like that. Be realistic. You are clearly a give me person. Invest the time or find a game that fits the time you have to spend.

[quote]Why are you so senselessly long winded?[/quote] That's a very interesting way of saying "I cannot engage in rhetorical argument, and concise thorough arguments scare me. I'd much rather cover the exact same content over the course of 50 individual posts." If it was actually referring to someone who padded out their replies uselessly, then it would be a warranted comment. But here you are appropriating it as a cheap cop-out. [quote]Bungie provides a piece of entertainment. [/quote] First mistake. You are phrasing this in a way that emphasizes benevolence. This is a product, not a charity. Second, you are making the same mistake that another commenter made, and are pretending that I am the only one who has this issue with the game. This seems to be the only way your argument can hold water, which is why you purposefully ignore it. [quote]Clearly you don't play enough to get what others do and expect to have the same things they do. It doesn't work like that.[/quote] [quote]You are clearly a give me person[/quote] Oh wow, I want players to be treated based on their knowledge of the game and not based on the egregious amount of time the game demands they spend for basic game content? And I want their time to be valued? And that makes me a "give-me" person? You clearly have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. This is hilarious to me. You would call the same people who complained about Battlefront 2's launch, complaining about the insane grind time "give me" people. You'd call a person asking for a raise because they believe their labor is worth more than what they are currently being paid a "give me person." Anyone who thinks a product is overpriced, regardless of the quality of the product and its actual value, is a "give me person" to you. Those words don't work the way that you think they work.