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If you matched with them, you can just use your PGCR to report them. If you didn't match with them, you can't report them for in-game actions anyway, so what would be the point? We should absolutely report any cheaters we run into in the wild, but poring over a player's activity to try to determine if they're cheating is Bungie's job, let them handle that.
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  • I think you’re missing the point, here. The point is to help determine consistency and remove any semblance of safety/anonymity that a cheater has, even when they set their Steam profile to private. They might’ve played well during the match YOU had with them, but what about others who have played with them? You would have no way of knowing because of how the current system works for privacy settings. Crucible Report only goes back for 10 matches or so, and details/transparency matter on reports. I would want to include every last bit of information that I could find, and never leave it to chance that the enforcement team overlooks something in the report. Not because they suck or that I don’t trust them, but because they’re human. They manually review the reports, so obviously there’s going to be some degree of error in, say, a report with no video evidence versus a report with video evidence. Would you really want to leave that up to chance?

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  • Sure, but Bungie doesn't want us doing all that. They just want us to report and move on. Plus, the changes you suggest could too easily be used to witch hunt and harass people, something Bungie takes a pretty firm stance against.

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  • This is already done by the PvP sweat playerbase on the daily, especially coming from the folks who play D2 Faceit. Case study: There was a player recently who was streaming on Twitch with a hard aimbot and a webcam. Once people found out, the cheater’s stream went to 400, 500 plus viewers before a ban was in effect on their account. In that time frame, they were pretty much immortalized because those people have pictures of the cheater’s face as stickers or memes for their discord. Bungie can SAY they take a hard stance against that kind of harassment, but again, when you play on a well enough level or act in bad faith via cheating, the attention comes whether Bungie wants it to or not. Would they really go out of their way to punish 400 people for making a meme out of a cheater?

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  • Bungie has no control over Twitch, or Twitter, or Reddit, or any other forum that players can use to witch hunt. All they can control is their website and their game, where they can put limitations to discourage that kind of behavior. It still happens, of course, but that doesn't mean Bungie will make it easier.

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