Yeah, people keep trying to talk tech like the problem is that you just don't understand. Yes, destiny is not quite run purely peer 2 peer, but the system they do use is still old, it still requires the player's (or some player's) Internet to do the work. Still runs into problems when the players connection is not fully up to scratch. Whether it's their fault or not. So it doesn't really matter what system is in use, what matters is that it needs updating. ANY improvement will be appreciated throughout the playerbase no? Surely a newer system will be better than the old one? Last time I mentioned it I got snarky comments but I look at it this way : I've wired my connection. I'm constantly running tests and troubleshooting. I've phoned around and gotten the fastest, best Internet available in my area. I've checked my Nat type and followed the bungie guide etc I try to play at off peak times. Every time I play I turn my phone off, my laptop off, my TV off. I double checked the Internet providers and ensured that I do have the best possible Internet in my area and address. I'm literally doing everything I can. So can bungie say the same? ........... [spoiler] All people are asking is that they at least update, like to a similar level as other games. It would be helpful especially for those who are struggling with money or in a difficult situation /location - y'know, be inclusive? [/spoiler]