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7/30/2021 3:47:56 PM
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So if you pay for a Netflix subscription, you feel entitled to be able to watch movies on Hulu?
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[i]Nailed[/i] it!
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Edited by Fate: 7/31/2021 1:36:27 AMHuluflicks
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Perfect example my dude. Took the words out of my mouth.
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That....That isn't even close to the same thing. This is more like "I paid for netflix on my computer, so I should be able to watch it on my xbox too!" Which you can. Or "I paid for Hulu on my playstation, so I should be able to log in to that account on my Roku and watch it there." Which you can. It's ridiculous to pay over a hundred something dollars for DLC on one platform, link that platform to all your others, and then have to buy ALL the DLC on another platform despite being on the very same account that already bought the DLC. Imagine if you had to have a separate Netflix subscription for every single device you wanted to watch it on. That's how stupid this is.
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A better comparison would be buying a burger from McDonald's then wanting a free one from burger King
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Ma’am, this is a taco. And it’s half eaten. Your receipt is from IKEA. I’ll need to get the manager. Your name?
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When you pay for a game for a console, where does the money go? This is what you don't seem to understand. Bungie will absolutely get a portion of the profit, but so does the console manufacturer. If you buy the game on Xbox for example, Microsoft gets paid as well because the game can only be played by using their console. You are trying to say that even though Sony has not been paid, you should be able to play content on their platform for free, which is not how the world works. You are right, the Netflix/Hulu example is not a perfect comparison, so let's go with another one. Let's say you purchase Microsoft Office (Word/Excel/etc.) for your personal computer, you then decide you want to purchase a Laptop and also want to use Microsoft Office on that laptop. Should you need to purchase Microsoft Office again? The answer is yes because you are buying a license of a product to use on a device. Even though you have already paid for a service, you still need to pay for it again on another device. Do I think it would be worth Bungie considering reduced prices for buying the same content on multiple platforms? Yes, especially with Crossplay coming soon, however, it is ridiculous to believe it should be free on other platforms once you've paid for it.
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GamePass -Console or pc (if available) GOG/Steam/Nvidia -buy wherever (if available) Sony- gimme yo wallet!
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Not even the point. The point was that you made an absolutely awful comparison that wasn't even close to the same situation (buying netflix and getting Hulu included as opposed to buying DLC on one platform and getting that exact same DLC on other platforms included) and regardless of who's fault it is or why it is that way, it's still stupid to do it that way. If you pay to have the DLC on your account, you should get the DLC included with that account wherever you sign in on it. Don't say "the platforms need the money!" cause they absolutely don't. PC is one of the biggest markets in the world, and Steam rakes in more than they'll ever need, so they wouldn't hurt any from allowing Bungie to let people have true cross-save as opposed to having to re-buy the DLC. And playstation has so much money they can afford to drip-feed their most in-demand console ever, so they clearly wouldn't hurt from it either. Xbox is another case of not NEEDING the money too. Don't defend big companies like that. They don't need or deserve it.
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[quote]Don't defend big companies like that. They don't need or deserve it.[/quote] Is it really defending a company by saying they deserve to be paid for content that goes on their platform? I honestly feel bad for you if you think that's how the world should work. If you worked for Sony or Microsoft, that money helps pay for your paycheck, so saying the company doesn't need or deserve the money is completely narrow-sighted. [quote]If you pay to have the DLC on your account, you should get the DLC included with that account wherever you sign in on it.[/quote] Yes, and last time I checked, you have an account on your Xbox, a separate account on your Playstation, and a separate account on Steam. That's 3 different accounts. You obviously will not understand how this works, so the conversation probably will not go far from here. All I'll say is that if you don't like the current system, make your own game and give it away for free, that sounds like a good plan.
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Warframe is planning that
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Steam didn't make Destiny 2. They aren't entitled to profits from it. Playstation didn't make Destiny 2. They aren't entitled to profits from it. Xbox didn't make Destiny 2. They aren't entitled to profits from it. With no source of income, all these companies would fail fast. But here's the thing: they make enough from GAME sales that they don't need DLC sales. Steam, Xbox, and Playstation could all afford to cut DLC profits from their income to allow game dev companies to allow for TRUE cross-save, and they'd still be doing perfectly fine from game sales alone. I'm not saying you should be able to buy a game on one platform and have full free access to it everywhere else. I'm saying if you buy additional content for the game, and then you buy that game elsewhere, you should be able to link the accounts and have the additional content there too. Because this big companies DON'T NEED the extra profit from DLC sales.
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[quote]...they make enough from GAME sales that they don't need DLC sales.[/quote] Where's your fact check on that?
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It's literally common sense. Most DLCs don't cost as much as the base game. Say the platform takes 30% of all sales. Every $60 game, every $80 deluxe edition, every $20 game, every $5 game, they're taking in 30% of that (in this example). Say they sell 1 million $60 games in a year, 500k $80 deluxe editions, 2 million $20 games, and 4 million $5 games. That totals up to 160 million dollars in sales. 30% of that is 48 million dollars. That's JUST from sales of THOSE games. Not to mention more expensive or less expensive or in-betweens. Add on the revenue from console sales, plus licensing sales, and you have MORE than enough money. Enough that you don't need the roughly $6 per cheap DLC, $9 per mid-cost DLC, and $18 per expensive DLC.
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Common sense doesn't always equal business sense. Who are you to say where they can make their money from? Who are you so say when it's enough. Especially when it's not from just one source. License contracts can cover more than one vendor. Again. Where is your business sense? Or is it just "they don't deserve to make that money " mentally with no actually business acumen behind your statement? C'mon dude. Your outing yourself as an uneducated flag waver with every statement.
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Have you considered business sense is just a polite way of saying coldhearted greed? They should take the money they deserve, nothing more. But I suppose taking only what you actually earn is too fair for business sense. Gotta demand more and more and more all the time, yeah?
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[quote]Have you considered business sense is just a polite way of saying coldhearted greed?[/quote] If you ever decide to get a job, please tell your employer to stop trying to make money. Watch what they decide to do with your paycheck ;) Grow up.
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[quote]Have you considered business sense is just a polite way of saying coldhearted greed?[/quote] It's not a global consideration. That's your bias and some ignorance coming through. And maybe just a little corporate hate. Which is a firm of bias. I'm not going to ay there's not greed out there but what this topic is about is not it.
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When it comes to the gaming industry, the big companies ARE just greedy. You want a fair, honest company? Look to indie devs. No-name groups. Those people genuinely appreciate everything they have, because they're one bad release away from dying out. Xbox, Sony, Nintendo, all those? They stopped caring a long time ago. Money is all that matters to them. One bad release, or even a hundred bad releases, won't kill them. It'll barely sting them.
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You're obviously mad at society so I'll just leave you with that. You've offered nothing to support your obvious hateful bias position. Good luck
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And you've offered nothing to prove me wrong.
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Actually I and others have. Your refusal to accept it is just more proof of your character flaws. More proof of your unwillingness to accept the consequences of your action (or in-actions)
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You really haven't though. "They have to pay the costs of X" doesn't mean "They need to do this to pay the costs of X". Without revenue from DLC sales, they could still afford all of that. Nobody, not ONE SINGLE PERSON, has given me ANY proof they would struggle even a LITTLE bit, by cutting out DLC sales from their income.
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Bad take my dude
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"People who had nothing to do with making the game have no right to the money from anything besides a portion of game sales for hosting it on their platform. Additional content should go 100% to the people who actually made the game." "Yeah but that'd be fair, so you're wrong."
