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7/30/2021 12:32:09 AM
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The one thing I feel that Massive did a pretty good job in The Division 2 was allowing the players to select the difficulty they wanted for the open world - from the normal all the way up to Heroic (Div2 version of Grand Master) with everything scaling to that level - from XP gained, the quality of the rewards and to the enemies. In addition to the difficulty selection, they also gave players the option of selecting from a set of modifiers called Directives that gave a bonus to the XP gained. The directives ranged from ammo hoarders to no fog of war to enemies using special ammo types. I would be happy if Bungie took a similar approach within Destiny as Massive has done with The Division 2's open world. Bungie keeps talking about there being 3 core activities, Strikes, Gambit and Crucible, but they completely overlook that there is a 4th one with the Open World. The open world is just as much an essential part of the game as the 'big' 3, but has been sorely lacking with any real attention even back in the first game.
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  • You can increase difficulty in The Division by doing other activities in an area that add difficulty to the one you have set too. Turn a Hard mode version into challenging just by doing a couple of other activities like free hostages etc. If I had a friend base for The Division like I do Destiny that would have had way more time input into it.

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  • Edited by CorsairBadger: 7/30/2021 1:08:57 PM
    [quote]from the normal all the way up to Heroic (Div2 version of Grand Master) with everything scaling to that level[/quote] Not true. Heroic is Master equivalent. The highest level anywhere in the game without a separate game mode. Legendary Summit and Strongholds are the equivalent of Grandmaster. That being said. I agree. The Division 2 does a far better job of difficulty scaling and is no more difficult as a solo player than as a four-man squad because enemy life and amount scale too. Also allowing you to go after specific gear based on what's dropping from what areas of the map is also far better than Destiny's system. Bungie could implement something similar with scaling patrol zones up to Master where certain patrol areas of destinations, i.e. Asterion Abyss, would rotate daily on specific legendary armour pieces and/or weapons dropping from patrols and public events. All Lost Sectors scale to the difficulty of the patrol zone, and grant exotics accordingly based on current Legend/Master Lost Sector rules. Patrol zones could add roaming Champions, much like Io and Titan in Season of Arrivals, and also add them to public events. But, this is something far beyond Bungie's development capabilities so we'll never get a well made difficulty system or loot system like The Division 2.

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  • Division 2 grinding was way worse than the destiny grind my guy I was 14 on dark hours completions before I came back to destiny over 500 completions ive dropped way down since prd and ace took over I was in prd. But open world loot was crap tbh you had to do control points 5000 times and maybe get one piece worth keeping summit was crap never I repeat never mention massive they let a good game die it died my guy 30 lfg posts right now massive is crap bungie does a wonderful job with seasons keeping people playing etc. Never mention massive

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  • [quote]Division 2 grinding was way worse than the destiny grind my guy I was 14 on dark hours completions before I came back to destiny over 500 completions ive dropped way down since prd and ace took over I was in prd. But open world loot was crap tbh you had to do control points 5000 times and maybe get one piece worth keeping summit was crap never I repeat never mention massive they let a good game die it died my guy 30 lfg posts right now massive is crap bungie does a wonderful job with seasons keeping people playing etc. Never mention massive[/quote] Dude I don't have an honest clue what you're even talking about. I took an almost 3 year hiatus from this raging dumpster fire to go play Div2, and hands down they do a [i]way [b]better[/b][/i] job of handling loot and leveling up than Bungie has ever done with this franchise. Only reason I'm [i]back[/i], is because a friend got into this, and I decided to take a break from Div2. I have a build for literally [i][b]any[/b][/i] play style I want. I cannot say the same about D2.

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  • Edited by NobleSlapOne: 7/30/2021 7:12:38 PM
    Division 2 is a trash live service season 5 was a repeat of season 2 summit was trash and there is no classes its skill build or dps. But the game is trash dude so I dont know what your talking about im looking right now ATM 42 lfg posts total last post was 23 mins ago destiny 2 has 1159 lfg posts available and was from just now to 17 mins so my guy many many people know what I'm talking about but naive people don't so there ya go :-)

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  • [quote]Division 2 is a trash live service season 5 was a repeat of season 2[/quote] They have literally said they're redoing the seasons to allow newer players and people who missed stuff a 2nd chance to get any missed gear. That's why is a repeat. [quote]summit was trash[/quote] Until you get a viable build to solo legendary summit, and/or find a legit squad to run with. I hated it at first until I took the time to learn about it. Now its an absolute unit for collecting God rolled/maxed out gear. [quote]and there is no classes its skill build or dps.[/quote] There are also tank builds, as well as some pretty sweet hybrid builds out. I have a few of both and are equally fun to play with as much as a solid skill/dps. Some of my hybrid builds out perform straight dps/skill builds. There's also a lot better variety than running the meta of [i]this[/i] dumpster fire. [quote]im looking right now ATM 42 lfg posts total last post was 23 mins ago destiny 2 has 1159 lfg posts available and was from just now to 17 mins so my guy many many people know what I'm talking about but naive people don't so there ya go :-)[/quote] Checking lfg posts on Xbox and Playstation doesn't equate to more or less people playing, especially considering that there are multiple lfg services sites lmfao. Div2 is also getting old itself, its going to naturally lose players....just like D2.

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  • If I logged on my account and you seen the skill builds tank builds the hard protection builds dude I have everything every exotic every build over 550 dark hours 200 iron horse multiple summit run all directives bro the game died in NYC period get over it bungie reigns over massive with content and story lines in game bungie is a way better organized group for gaming halo to destiny they reign only big game massive had was division and its dead pvp is trash dark zone is stupid no point in playing the same raid after you get the exotic gun from when the optimization table hit div 1 the game died same for div 2 the table came everyone left major clans streamers etc.. Google it outriders was supposed to be the next best thing to div2 but the game flopped as its not a live service game. Destiny will be in my life until they stop making content. Massive stopped so i quit playing 223 crit dps build god rolled om every build every exotic its done the game is over nothing new is coming so put up your turret and drones and try the master vog challenges or gms or go head to head with the best in trials but killing razorback or morozova is done for me my guy again 3rd time div 2 is dead its trash now and not one person will quit destiny for div2 but countless have quit div2 for destiny I rest my case thank you come again and that's 2 for a dollar SIR

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  • Agree Div 2 does a better job of catering to all types of players too. I like to solo most stuff but match making is there as an option if wanted. The setting your own difficulty and targetted loot options are good options. Bored of speed running strikes . Well here you go. Set your own difficulty add some modifiers and go in there alone. Plenty of missions to replay too.

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  • [quote]Agree Div 2 does a better job of catering to all types of players too. I like to solo most stuff but match making is there as an option if wanted. The setting your own difficulty and targetted loot options are good options. Bored of speed running strikes . Well here you go. Set your own difficulty add some modifiers and go in there alone. Plenty of missions to replay too.[/quote] Dude other than Eagle Bearer and a couple other guns, you don't need any raid specific weapons for practically any of the meta builds and most of the exotics used are ones you can find literally everywhere else. I'll admit Div2 has it's own shortcomings, [i]all[/i] games [b][i]do,[/i][/b] however I think it's infinitely more superior to D2...hands down.

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