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5/26/2021 5:23:58 PM
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VoG is a unique case.
In that you have a reissued raid, that is being given out free to the all players.
....and a community of veteran players who know the raids very well, and are in a position to teach.
This was a missed opportunity to expand the raiding community. It just seems that this isn't a priority with Bungie.
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I’m not sure what else bungie can do to expand the raiding community. Guided raids failed spectacularly and that was the closest to matchmade raids we will ever get. I think you have too high expectations for bungie. Vog was meant to be a re-release of a beloved raid, and more so be a raid you can bring your friend through to get them into d2 without buying dlc. It does its job.
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[quote]It does its job.[/quote] Barely....and in a way that is arguably malicious compliance.
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re-release of a beloved (d1 reprise) raid- check free for your friend who doesnt normally play d2 but you want to bring them into a raid- check idk how that’s malicious compliance?
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Randomly teleporting people into the portal who have to shoot Oracles in a specific order or else the team wipes? Fail.
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thats how the original raid worked bud. reworked oracles just makes it a bit harder.
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That’s not how the original raid worked. The Destiny 2 version is a variation on a raid challenge.
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in atheon encounter, 3 people randomly teleported. reworked oracles makes the encounter harder.
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But were free to shoot the oracles in whatever order in the base raid. The challenge was the combat, and keeping people cleansed somthey could see to shoot. Sequence didn’t become an issue until the Atheon Challenge during Age of Triumph. The challenge of being able to only shoot one Oracle forced you to have to get your entire team in and out of the portal, keep track of who is shooting which Oracle, and do it fast enough so that the Oracles don’t wipe you. The D2 Atheon fight is a simplified version of the raid challenge. Which, as I keep saying, doesn’t make it appreciably harder for veteran VoG raiders. But it is a nasty stiff arm to new players wanting to get in and learn the raid. Put a first time player in that role? Your raid will fall apart.
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I’ve done d2 atheon quite a few times with new players, its not that hard once people get the rhythm.
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Edited by YeahMatt: 5/27/2021 5:49:41 PMYeah, you have to learn a mechanic. Go figure. It's not even a hard one. I've even seen more players get these oracles down way easier/quicker than the D1 Atheon challenge, which also was not a hard mechanic. Some people just can't handle raiding in any capacity. Even the easiest raids don't get through some skulls.
