[quote]Ayo, Seen lots of "remove PvP from the game" recently. Personally disagree with this, I don't see any value or logic at all in removing it. So, I wanted to see what your reasons are for removing PvP, and I want you to try convince me, or vice versa.[/quote] Make pvp good again like in d1, make raids easier but funner, most d1 stuff is better except the hd. But it plays good. The raids were definately better. The rewards were better. Some things have been upgraded to a better choice and convenient way. The glow was cool the srl was cool. Archon priest, some strikes were way better, everything to do with orux and crota was cooler.