The original draw for me and many og players was to grind each content release for pvp gear. Without the want to play pvp the season pretty much dries up after a month or so. Pvp is what keeps the game going during the down times. Like now the player population is abysmal because pvp is a joke. Players who don’t take the time to get good at pvp always want it removed because they would rather it removed then get stomped. What these players fail to realize is many of the players you are doing raids, GMs and dungeons with are there to get gear for pvp. Many pvp players also play pve but not often the other way around. If you were to remove pvp I think the game would become a shell of its former self by cutting nearly 40% of the playerbase. Before players start arguing numbers let’s not forget visiting the spider counts as patrol and thus pve participation. Those numbers are def skewed. I play both day 1 raids and go to the lighthouse. I have both Flawless and Conqueror title. If pvp was cut I would quit the game easy as that. If you want a strictly pve game there are literally hundreds of them out there. What makes Destiny - Destiny is the ability to earn gear in pve and use it in pvp and vice versa. Having said all of that literally every aspect of pvp is in dire need of an overhaul. Hopefully we get a season of Shaxx in the not to distant future.