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5/6/2021 8:06:09 PM
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I'd play even more if they added more quests steps/bounties that involved pvp.
People genuinely cried about getting 10 heavy weapon kills in Iron Banner. That's how bad they are.
I play both PvE and PvP. Love them both. But the PvE only people are the most toxic cancerous part of this community. Wanting pvp removed because deep down they know they suck at it.
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Reason people didn't like the heavy weapon kills step is because heavy ammo is very inconsistent. You may sometimes be able to get it, but if you die or went off in some other direction to win the match by keeping zones capped then you don't get the ammo as one of your teammates or even an enemy will grab it. Then the most efficient way to do it is just camp the heavy ammo which comes at the detriment to your team and you better believe most people will do that when they have that step. This is why when they do PvP steps they need more consistent steps that can be completed without having to basically throw the game just to progress the quest at the most efficient pace. capping zones and getting kills with any weapon is fine, even special weapon kills would be fine as you spawn with ammo. But yeah, overall removing PvP would be really... really dumb.
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I saw that argument against the 10 heavy kills and its equally a dumb one. It was only 10 Heavy Weapon kills. If you have to camp heavy to get those 10 kills IB ain't for you.
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Its not that you have to camp... Its that people will camp heavy because its the most efficient. If I miss heavy once or twice in a game that means I'm going to have to do an entire other match and try again, if you mercy the enemy team or get mercied it means you get even less chances at heavy ammo during that match. Since quite a few matches in IB end with a mercy you only get 1 box for the entire match, hence why people will camp heavy ammo to get a higher chance at securing that single box for the match. Its the disparity in the quest step where there is a chance that you don't even get any progress while every other step in the quest can gain progress 99% of the time in every match you play.
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"Its not that you have to camp...its that people will camp because its efficient." So they have to camp...that's what I said -_- You can be in denial and tell yourself whatever you like to make yourself feel better. Seeing people in outrage over 10 heavy kills was pretty pathetic. I got it done in 3 matches. It's not a problem. At all. People just suck at PvP and cry at any and all pvp steps. This years solstice of heroes is going to cause a huge temper tantrum when people get to pvp steps. Even if they're laughably easy.
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They would still be able to progress it even if they don't camp... but they will camp because it'll be done in fewer matches. It's just like asking for invasion kills in Gambit people will just start camping the invasion portal at the detriment to their team just to get the most efficient progress on their quest step or challenge. They don't have to camp the invasion portal and could still help out their team, but why bother when someone on your team might jump in the portal hindering your progress? Just like trying to camp a point then head to heavy just for a teammate or enemy to pick it up which sometimes is the only box of heavy in that entire match making you need to play an entire other match just to progress. Heavy weapon kills in normal crucible control or most other modes are fine, but with Iron Banner you come across the issues with the hunt mechanic which can make matches a steam roll and only have 1 ammo box spawn during the entire match. Ability kills, precision kills, elemental kills, special weapon kills, specific weapon kills these are all reasonable and can be done or progressed in every match you play.
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You don't spend alot of time in the forums do you? Cause I see far more pvp posts talking about remove stasis or X weapon needs to be nerfed instead of just figuring out a strategy to get around it
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More likely pvers complaining they cant get a kill
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I didn't say those didnt exist. But you also failed to mention you dont see the pvp community wanting pve removed because they cant get x from pve endgame.
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I mean, some want x class or weapon removed, but yeah, the pve crow that doesnt want pvp on d2 is real toxic
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[quote]I'd play even more if they added more quests steps/bounties that involved pvp. People genuinely cried about getting 10 heavy weapon kills in Iron Banner. That's how bad they are. I play both PvE and PvP. Love them both. But the PvE only people are the most toxic cancerous part of this community. Wanting pvp removed because deep down they know they suck at it.[/quote] Bro you’re trash at pvp.
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View must be nice from my backpack 😁
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[quote]View must be nice from my backpack 😁[/quote] 🤣🤣🤣 ily thx for all the carries the past 5 years
