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Cutting super duration is a sure way to lose players in this game. Most roaming supers and least most warlock roaming supers all have a duration of 24 seconds or less. Hunters and titans I believe are around 30 maybe 35 if you're using the right exotic. Cutting that in half would mean no one gets to utilize their super what so ever. You'd only have the opportunity to score maybe 1 or 2 kills but what would be the point? The point of popping a super IS TO HAVE THE ADVANTAGE IN AN ENGAGEMENT. Also cutting damage reduction? What? Bro, you main goldie. You should already know goldie doesn't have any super armor because it's one of the most powerful supers in the game with it being able to one shot most supers. Chaos reach, nova warp, nova bomb, blade barrage, literally every tree of sunbreaker and top tree dawn all have the weakest super armor in the game and can be either shotgunned or fusion rifled out of these. Stormtrance as well. The only supers that's not the case with are sentinel(all three trees), behemoth, spec blade and arc staff( top and middle tree)
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  • For the record I'm not advocating against super DR/duration because I play the one super with zero DR. My issue is that there has been escalation in super effectiveness (stasis in particular) and zero consistency with other Light subclasses (you point out some of the underperforming ones). Some attempt to normalize the effectiveness of supers is desperately needed but if Bungie normalizes with Behemoth as their model, we may as well be playing Mayhem in terms of how unimportant the rest of the sandbox is going to be to the match's outcome.

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  • On that I can completely agree with you. But what made behemoth an issue wasn't just it's damage reduction alone. That fragment that gave an extra 25% damage reduction was what was causing the issue.

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  • Yes, true. And Stasis is built inherently differently. With Light, you have 3 different static options per subclass. With Stasis you have loads of aspect-fragment combinations you can exploit based on the build you want to achieve. The community clearly does a better job of finding the most broken combinations than Bungie's play testers because things like OG whisper of chains makes it through.

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  • [quote]Cutting super duration is a sure way to lose players in this game. Most roaming supers and least most warlock roaming supers all have a duration of 24 seconds or less. Hunters and titans I believe are around 30 maybe 35 if you're using the right exotic. Cutting that in half would mean no one gets to utilize their super what so ever. You'd only have the opportunity to score maybe 1 or 2 kills but what would be the point? The point of popping a super IS TO HAVE THE ADVANTAGE IN AN ENGAGEMENT. Also cutting damage reduction? What? Bro, you main goldie. You should already know goldie doesn't have any super armor because it's one of the most powerful supers in the game with it being able to one shot most supers. Chaos reach, nova warp, nova bomb, blade barrage, literally every tree of sunbreaker and top tree dawn all have the weakest super armor in the game and can be either shotgunned or fusion rifled out of these. Stormtrance as well. The only supers that's not the case with are sentinel(all three trees), behemoth, spec blade and arc staff( top and middle tree)[/quote] The longest Hunter super is 23.5s, and that’s Spectral (if you stay invisible. It’s 14.5s when you’re not). Arcstrider lasts 18s, and Golden gun last 10s. I don’t think any of them can reach 30s Also Stormtrance has the same damage resistance as Arcstrider, Striker, and Arcstaff.

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  • There's no way in hell both spec blade and arcstaff with the exception of maybe top tree being shorter than nova warp. No where did I say goldie lasted that long. It's kind of a one and done. Spec blade definitely last longer than nova warp especially if you're using gwisin.

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  • Edited by Ghostfire239: 4/21/2021 8:18:31 PM
    [quote]There's no way in hell both spec blade and arcstaff with the exception of maybe top tree being shorter than nova warp. No where did I say goldie lasted that long. It's kind of a one and done. Spec blade definitely last longer than nova warp especially if you're using gwisin.[/quote] I just tested Spectral and Nova Warp’s duration. [url=https://youtu.be/jiPyxc88mlQ]https://youtu.be/jiPyxc88mlQ[/url] I tested Arcstrider as well, it lasts ~17.5s. Unfortunately I think I forgot to upload that test. Nova Warp lasts longer than both of these supers.

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  • Okay I'm legit mind blown rn. I could have sworn them shits lasted at least 25 seconds. Well spec blade at least. I know arcstrider is short but I didn't think that short

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