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4/19/2021 12:06:04 AM
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I hate that they nerfed bastion despite it being the only kinetic fusion. Now if I want a fusion and a 120 I am screwed. Just annoying usual bungo moves.
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[quote]I hate that they nerfed bastion despite it being the only kinetic fusion. Now if I want a fusion and a 120 I am screwed. Just annoying usual bungo moves.[/quote] It’s barely getting nerfed. It’ll still be stupid OP.
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They went the wrong way about nerfing it. The range and accuracy wasn't the problem the charge time with ease of kill was. Honestly, bastion isn't very far ranged, Tight "pellet spread" wasn't the problem, the fast charge was.
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[quote]They went the wrong way about nerfing it. The range and accuracy wasn't the problem the charge time with ease of kill was. Honestly, bastion isn't very far ranged, Tight "pellet spread" wasn't the problem, the fast charge was.[/quote] I agree somewhat. I think the biggest problem is how you can shoot it, miss the first 2 shots and still kill with the third. A nerf to the damage of each shot would be best imo.
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If that would be PvP exclusive I agree, though I still think upping the charge time so any other fusion could charge faster would be most effective.
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Meanwhile Felwinters accounts for 10-15x more kills
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Edited by Bore: 4/19/2021 12:17:26 AM[quote]Meanwhile Felwinters accounts for 10-15x more kills[/quote] Bastion has a significantly higher kill to usage ratio. Felwinters gets used a lot, hence the more kills. If you’re going to look at kills, you have to look at usage too. Both need nerfs.
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That's because shotgun melee. You can't bastion and Melee you'll die every time by then.
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[quote]That's because shotgun melee. You can't bastion and Melee you'll die every time by then.[/quote] You don’t need to bastion melee. Each of its shots are a ohk, so it’s extreme forgiving if you miss and it has more range than a melee. It also one shots all supers, so no need to shotgun melee those either. If you somehow don’t get the kill, yes, you could melee just fine.
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Maybe xbox kids are extremely bad or you don't use bastion but ya you miss the ohl your dead you don't have time to melee.
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[quote]Maybe xbox kids are extremely bad or you don't use bastion but ya you miss the ohl your dead you don't have time to melee.[/quote] Shotguns don’t melee faster than fusions... if you’re missing with bastion, that’s a you issue. You got 3 shots, how are you missing, lol.
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Shotgun instantly shoot and you can instantly melee. Bastion takes 0.7 seconds to charge... Not sure what planet you live on. Shotguns account for like 30-40% of kills bastion makes up 2%.
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[quote]Shotgun instantly shoot and you can instantly melee. Bastion takes 0.7 seconds to charge... Not sure what planet you live on. Shotguns account for like 30-40% of kills bastion makes up 2%.[/quote] Yeah, the charge time is to account for the 3 shots that it shoots and the 2.5x range of bastion. Again, if you miss a shot with a fusion, you can immediately melee. The problem is bastion is designed to be extremely forgiving. It’s almost impossible to miss. Again, it needs a nerf.
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Theirs a reason people dont use fusions and if you wanna be super incompetent and say bastion is op while abusing shotguns I have litterrally nothing else to say to you. Your very stubborn and I should just mute you like every other xbox player.
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[quote]Theirs a reason people dont use fusions and if you wanna be super incompetent and say bastion is op while abusing shotguns I have litterrally nothing else to say to you. Your very stubborn and I should just mute you like every other xbox player.[/quote] Aggressive frames also need a nerf, but that doesn’t mean bastion isn’t OP. I’ve seen people go to great lengths to defend their crutches, but this is a whole other level. You’re not even using the correct words, lol. [spoiler]Theres literally no difference in how Xbox and PlayStation play. Doesn’t take a brain to understand that.[/spoiler]
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Guy using Astral and Igneous both adept shaming someone for using Bastion. Sounds about right. It’s an exotic. You understand it should be OP because of that, right. Yet your astral and igneous probably have way more kills on a weekly basis amongst the player base. Maybe you are crutching too much. Meta guy.
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Edited by Bore: 4/19/2021 10:47:15 AM[quote]Guy using Astral and Igneous both adept shaming someone for using Bastion. Sounds about right. It’s an exotic. You understand it should be OP because of that, right. Yet your astral and igneous probably have way more kills on a weekly basis amongst the player base. Maybe you are crutching too much. Meta guy.[/quote] Aggressive shotguns and high impact hand cannons also needs nerfs. That doesn’t change bastion needing a nerf. Also no, being an exotic does not mean it should be OP. That’s idiotic.
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Edited by Dejwacker: 4/19/2021 10:50:19 AMGood response. I’m typing on an iPhone in a bungie forum. Grammar isn’t my first thought. It is an exotic and had a whole quest attached to getting it. The point of an exotic is that is better than a legendary weapon. What is your gripe? You equip wardcliff probably and get free kills. It’s the same concept. Exotic weapons should be better that is the point of earning them.
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That’s not the point of an exotic - the point is that they have unique and unusual traits.
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[quote]What is your gripe? You equip wardcliff probably and get free kills. It’s the same concept. Exotic weapons should be better that is the point of earning them.[/quote] Wardcliff is a heavy weapon... bastion is a special weapon. Again, bastion needs a nerf. Comparing it to a heavy weapon doesn’t help your defense.
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Do you complain when a sniper one shot kills you? Or a shotgun or any other fusion rifle? Special weapons can one shot kill people. That is the point. Look at chaperone. It doesn’t need a nerf does it? It has more range than bastion. Please nerf everything that counters you shotgun apes. Maybe you need to adapt and quite crutching your meta so hard every match. Bastion has more range than a shotgun. Just so you know. It is used by 3% of the population. How does that scream nerf?
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[quote]Do you complain when a sniper one shot kills you? Or a shotgun or any other fusion rifle? Special weapons can one shot kill people. That is the point. Look at chaperone. It doesn’t need a nerf does it? It has more range than bastion. Please nerf everything that counters you shotgun apes. Maybe you need to adapt and quite crutching your meta so hard every match. Bastion has more range than a shotgun. Just so you know. It is used by 3% of the population. How does that scream nerf?[/quote] Chaperone doesn’t have more range than bastion... bastion shoots 3 ohk shots, has a set spread pattern(consistency), kills at 20 meters, one shots supers and makes the barricade class ability completely useless. Comparing it to other specials only makes your realize how much stronger it is. Usage alone is irrelevant. Look at its kill to usage ratio. It makes up 50% more kills than its usage. Again, it needs a nerf.
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[quote]Good response. I’m typing on an iPhone in a bungie forum. Grammar isn’t my first thought. I see you have no concise reply. Meta guy.[/quote] Like I said, you admit that bastion is OP yet try to defend it by saying there are other guns that need nerfs. That’s a terrible argument.
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Exotic weapons should feel that way “exotic”. There is a reason you can only equip one of them.
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[quote]Exotic weapons should feel that way “exotic”. There is a reason you can only equip one of them.[/quote] There’s a difference between feeling exotic and being overpowered.
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The bastion is a good exotic it will get nerfed into the ground like sleeper because people like you get killed by it every once and while. Stop aping and adjust. Use your broken 120 hand cannon. The game is more fun with more options. If they didn’t nerf everything and actually improved other weapons more people would play pvp.
